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Band Nut won't tighten

Battleborn
Battleborn Posts: 3,696
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Good evening all.  I am in the middle of a band realignment and the top band but won't tighten. It just keeps spinning. Any ideas on a fix?
Las Vegas, NV


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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,137
    Replace the nut and bolt. It's stripped. It happens.
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,836
    The bolt is stripped. You need to replace the bolt, and while at it I would replace the nut as well.
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
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  • Battleborn
    Battleborn Posts: 3,696
    Is this something I can get at Home Depot or Lowes? What kind of bolt?
    Las Vegas, NV


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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,836
    Grade 5 carriage bolt. Doubtful you can find it at Home Depot or Lowe's. Do you have a Fastenal nearby?
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
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  • abpgwolf
    abpgwolf Posts: 564
    You need a Grade 5  5/16" carriage bolts 2" long. I couldn't find them at HD or Lowes. I finally found them a hardware store with a good fastener section. 

     PM me if you can't find any in your area. 

    Lititz, PA – XL BGE

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  • Battleborn
    Battleborn Posts: 3,696
    I do, unfortunately they are closed on Saturday and Sunday. I live in a city, so I should be able to find a place that has them. Appreciate the quick response
    Las Vegas, NV


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  • GrateEggspectations
    GrateEggspectations Posts: 11,597
    edited November 2016
    Try not to overtighten. I've steered clear of nut bands ever since a night of misadventure I experienced with a dominatrix named Monique back in '13.

    ....Sorry, misread the title there... My bad.
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  • Sirk98
    Sirk98 Posts: 79
    This is the first time I have seen a post about the bolt/nut stripping.. Oddly enough, I just noticed mine doing the exact same thing on my XL. 

    So I just need to go to a hardware store and get a ' Grade 5  5/16" carriage bolts 2" long. '? Does it need to be stainless (or is that what 'grade 5' means?

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  • kl8ton
    kl8ton Posts: 6,421
    Speaking in simple terms: Grade 5 bolts are stronger bolts than Grade 2 (what you will find at HD and Lowes). 


    Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
    Grand Rapids MI
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,589
    Sirk98 said:
    This is the first time I have seen a post about the bolt/nut stripping.. Oddly enough, I just noticed mine doing the exact same thing on my XL. 

    So I just need to go to a hardware store and get a ' Grade 5  5/16" carriage bolts 2" long. '? Does it need to be stainless (or is that what 'grade 5' means?

    grade 5 is stronger than the run of the mill, it will have 3 radial lines on the head. ive never noticed whats on the bge ones

    hex-cap-screws

    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    kl8ton said:
    Speaking in simple terms: Grade 5 bolts are stronger bolts than Grade 2 (what you will find at HD and Lowes). 


    Furthermore the tensile strength of a grade 2 is only 60,000 PSI but a grade 5 is 100,000. Put in real basic terms tensile strength means the force needed to break the metal in half by pulling on it.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • GoooDawgs
    GoooDawgs Posts: 1,060
    Get the Grade 5 and add 2 nuts per bolt for reinforcement.  Should stay tight then. 
    Milton, GA 
    XL BGE & FB300
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  • dgaddis1
    dgaddis1 Posts: 140
    I can't imagine any fastener on a grill *needing* the strength of a grade 5 bolt.  A grade 2 5/16" bolt w/a strength of 60,000 PSI means it can handle just shy of 4,600lbs.   That bolt has enough tensile strength to support a Ford F150.
    Dustin - Macon, GA
    Southern Wheelworks 
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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    dgaddis1 said:
    I can't imagine any fastener on a grill *needing* the strength of a grade 5 bolt.  A grade 2 5/16" bolt w/a strength of 60,000 PSI means it can handle just shy of 4,600lbs.   That bolt has enough tensile strength to support a Ford F150.
    Then why does BGE use Grade 5 bolts for this application?

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,891
    so this is why the eggs are soooo expensive.....
    Have:
     XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
    Had:
    LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby

    Fat Willies BBQ
    Ola, Ga

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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,174
    Don't buy any bolt above grade 5. You want the bolt bend. 
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  • dgaddis1
    dgaddis1 Posts: 140
    Carolina Q said:
    dgaddis1 said:
    I can't imagine any fastener on a grill *needing* the strength of a grade 5 bolt.  A grade 2 5/16" bolt w/a strength of 60,000 PSI means it can handle just shy of 4,600lbs.   That bolt has enough tensile strength to support a Ford F150.
    Then why does BGE use Grade 5 bolts for this application?
    Probably has more to do with the materials/finishes available to prevent corrosion.  It's certainly not for strength though.
    Dustin - Macon, GA
    Southern Wheelworks 
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  • poster
    poster Posts: 1,348
    dgaddis1 said:
    I can't imagine any fastener on a grill *needing* the strength of a grade 5 bolt.  A grade 2 5/16" bolt w/a strength of 60,000 PSI means it can handle just shy of 4,600lbs.   That bolt has enough tensile strength to support a Ford F150.

    With strength in metal hardness usually follows suit. You know how the bolt bends as you torque it? A grade 2 would bend much easier and you would likely never get the proper torque on it.  Add in a few expansions and contractions of the egg, and your bolts would yield and loosen up much faster. Also these bolts are not in direct tension and have a good shear and moment load on them as you can see in the bending. A grade 2 would likely still never break, but it might cause other issues. That being said the hole band system on the eggs are terrible, I can never get mine to stay put.
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