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Off Topic - Going through divorce, need advice

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  • Hans61
    Hans61 Posts: 3,901
    Don't know where you're at but where I am and like many other states have gone to "no fault" divorce and property distribution isn't equal but equitable.

    Id say separate your accounts - if you have $ going into a joint account I'd stop that, and make a plan to pay off any joint debt equally with her  so it doesn't become something she tries to tie you to. Also put your kid first through this and don't put down her mom in front of her. 

    sorry for ya man. Guessing like @Griffin said you'll probably be better off in the long run not being with the kind of person who lies and commits adultery. 
    “There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
    Coach Finstock Teen Wolf
  • So sorry.
    Hendersonville, TN.
  • Vuke
    Vuke Posts: 3
    Been here.  Done this.  Get a lawyer.  Period.  I'm a lawyer and I tried to do mine "nice" and I got $&);$.  Bottom line though.....do everything you can to preserve, nurture and develop the relationship with your little girl.   DO NOT let that slide in any way
  • I'm actually in Alabama...The Brevard part of my handle is for Brevard College in NC where I went to school. I have setup an appointment with a lawyer for next Friday 9/23.

    @Johnkitchens It is extremely hard living in the same house, especially just 1 & a half weeks after I found out. I was told by a friend of mine not to leave & go stay somewhere else...That it could be considered "Abandoning the family" or something like that. Either way, I don't think we'll be able to make it to summer 2017 living in the same house. I'll have to figure something out financially that will allow me or her to move out while we work through this

    I didn't mean my post to be critical. You have my sympathy. I hope you get all of this worked out and resolved soon and can move one. I have never had to go through it, but I have close family that has had to deal with a cheating spouse. It rips a family apart. 

    We are here for you bro. 

    Louisville, GA - 2 Large BGE's
  • Hate to be a downer here but my advice is to buy some KY jelly and grab your ankles cause you will be getting f&$cked

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,519

    Thanks all. I saved the phone statement...It doesn't have the content in the texts but there is a clear pattern. She admitted to me verbally that they have been physical twice (although I think it's probably more than that). There is also a trip to Dominican Republic (9/29 to 10/4) that she continues to claim is for "work", yet she cannot provide any kind of proof that it is for work. She says it's with a group of people, but he will be there. I refuse to believe that & think that it might be a trip with just them 2. I told her to minimize my pain, I would appreciate if she cancelled the trip. She continues to hold onto the trip & make excuses why she can't cancel it. At this point, I'm done trying to make her cancel the trip...It just stings even worse because she used our Chase Ultimate reward points ($600 worth) for the flight.

    Sorry again to be a Debbie downer...I really appreciate all the input

    If it's a "work" trip why did she need to use the Chase points for airfare?

    And real sorry to hear this. Hang in there man.
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  • Hans61
    Hans61 Posts: 3,901
    “There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
    Coach Finstock Teen Wolf
  • SoCalTim
    SoCalTim Posts: 2,158
    Sorry brother, you got quite a bit of sound advice already, but I do wanna add just one thing.

    Dignity, no matter what happens don't forget to keep your dignity. Same kinda sorta thing happened with me and an ex-gf a long time ago which I'd rather not talk about as it opens up an old wound that sometimes I think has healed, but hasn't.

    When all is said and done, it's all your gonna have left ... best to you.

    Tim
     



    I've slow smoked and eaten so much pork, I'm legally recognized as being part swine - Chatsworth Ca.
  • blasting
    blasting Posts: 6,262

    I truly feel bad for anyone going through this.  You asked for input, so...
     
    1/ Move out.

    2/ Lawyer up.  It'll cost a bunch but if you don't, she'll get it anyway.

    3/ Move out.

    4/ Don't try and and be a nice guy.  Even if she doesn't take advantage of this - her lawyer will

    5/ Move out. 

    I agree with @SoCalTim completely on the dignity.  I wish you all the best in getting through this.  FYI - my marriage was so bad that 13 years later I still awake each day thankful I'm single - there is light at the end of the tunnel.


    Phoenix 
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    The most hurtful passive-aggressive thing you can do is act happy about it.
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  • I have to say........I am impressed, that this many people on this forum, would show this kind of support, to someone who just joined and has not even made a name for himself yet.  You would think you had been on this forum for years with the responses read here!!  I applaud you all!
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    Livermore, California
  • i can't speak from experience, however, I have had a few close buddy's go through a divorce. I think you have to lawyer up, you do protect yourself and your (former) spouse will get less only because the lawyers have taken 50% of everything on the table! Maybe the lawyers in my area are just greedy, but I had an assistant that went through a 6 year divorce (total estate maybe $250K) and one of the lawyers dragged it on for as long as it took to take an amazing amount of $$$. Keep your eye on them. Most are ok I'm sure...but you get the bad apple that has no morals. A very close buddy of mine related that he cancelled a day of work (cost him $$ of course) to go to a hearing only to learn that HIS lawyer made a same day cancellation as he had other more "pressing" business. Then, to add insult to injury my buddy got a bill for his lawyers time to reschedule the meeting!
    WTF??? Are you kidding??? Look closely at ALL bills you receive and do not hesitate to challenge any that look questionable.

    Good luck to you and try to get referrals for a lawyer that others have been happy with, or at least don't want to crush with an XL BGE.
  • Nothing more to add but I will say good luck and best to you. Hang in there and keep your head up. There is someone out there for everyone and she wasn't the one for you. And I'm sure the new man isn't the one for her but that's her problem now. Best of luck!
    Snellville, GA


  • Do not move out, discuss that 1st with your lawyer. As stated before it could be considered abandonment. Do not get into any altercations with her. Keep all conversations civil, especially in front of your daughter. Remember your daughter is number one now as are you. Do not threaten her in any way, you never know if she is recording your conversations. You can ask my dumb ass brother about that.
    As bad as it gets, and it will, do not give up.. Ask for everything, you can negotiate down. A lot of good advice from everyone.
  • tarheelmatt
    tarheelmatt Posts: 9,867
    edited September 2016
    Okay, I'm stationary.  

    After that older gentleman gave me the word of advise I previously posted, that really hit home for me.  After that, I played hard ball.  It really throws them off when you turn a different direction than you are.  

    My lawyer told me to change the locks on all the doors until further notice.  

    While he worked the papers I was very cordial towards her, but didn't give in on anything.  I always said in a very calm voice "you made your bed".  

    The main thing for you is to still treat her well in front of your kids, no matter what, but look out for the little ones treatment too.  That's something I didn't have in my instance.  

    Again, do some research, get a good lawyer.  The lady I hired has a rap for "hating women" and "being a beatch" toward women.  



    Don't be afraid to see help too.  Depending on your benefits, most insurances will pay for a number of visits to a therapist.  Mine happened to be 12 visits, but I only used 8.  It was great to talk to someone who didn't know me or her.

    Go to your preacher to talk to if the above isn't something you desire.  

    I will say this, the lady therapist that walked me through made me feel the best I felt in a long time when this happened.  

    I'll PM you my phone number if you just need someone to talk to as well.  


    DO NOT MOVE OUT!   


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  • MJG
    MJG Posts: 615
    +1 on lawyer and Not leaving the house no matter how hard not to do so. Godspeed Sir. 
    Large Big Green Egg in a nest. North Shore of Boston.
  • Depending on the state, and I hear it's a difficult putt, in NC, and that is alienation of affection could be charged.  
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  • Wow. Left work a few hours ago & just now looking. I can't even begin to express how much I appreciate all of your comments. This is truly incredible & helping me to keep my head up & keep moving. Not going to lie...I'm pretty down right now thinking of everything I'm going to have to do to get this out of the way & move on. What's keeping me going is 1-my daughter, 2-you guys!, & 3-the thought of meeting someone in the future that is awesome & not a piece of $hit. 

    @tarheelmatt that'd be great if u could PM me your #. The more friends & family I talk to, the easier it is for me

    when I say this I mean it...you guys are truly incredible people & it feels really damn good to have all of your support. I wish I could buy all of you beers!
  • I can't add anything other than to say good luck to you and also that my friends that have gone through this would all say that as difficult as it was to go through, they are happier now than they would have been if stuck in a marriage that one or more parties weren't committed to.
    Stillwater, MN
  • BilZol
    BilZol Posts: 698
    This will probably be the most contrary odd reply you'll ever receive, and I'm sure will lead to ridicule etc.... Don't bother because it doesn't bother me. 
    If everything else in your marriage is good, kids are happy and you are both in it for life let her have the BF. They usually burn off pretty quick anyways and you don't have to start all over. Current wife and I have friends we go out with, things we do apart and questions we don't ask. We've both been through the wringer with previous spouses and had some hard times ourselves. We really are each other's best friends and in this for life, neither of us give a rats ass if the other goes out and plays a game of touch football. He'll, she's been shopping with one of my friends and we go out with some of hers. You all got married for a reason. Is it really gone?
    Bill   Denver, CO
    XL, 2L's, and MM
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    I've already said my piece so perhaps I should move on, but there's one thing that keeps striking me as odd. I sense the sorrow you have and the fact that you have a natural child between you, but she also brought a 17 year old daughter into this marriage. Whether that child was born of wedlock or a previous marriage doesn't make difference. I just think sooner than later you ought to realize she may have cheated on you long before this time, but this time she even left the trail blazing hot perhaps just for you to finally see it?  When are you going to get pissed rather than seem to be the hurt dude left behind? Lawyer up and grow a set rather than taking on the role of the proverbial victim of a cheating spouse? Sorry, man, maybe it's my gender and my age but a cheating wife with two natural children at that is low life.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • FATC1TY
    FATC1TY Posts: 888
    Sorry to hear- as a guy of a similar age, with 3 kids and all the luggage with it. I bet that stings a bit.

    That said- the sun comes up tomorrow, and you can't look forward to the future if you always look behind your back.

    Get your mind right, and it's a business. If she takes the kiddo, let her. You'll get to play and visit, and be a part of their lives. Eventually she won't want to live with a b1tch, and will move with you, or move away.

    Plenty of resources out there in this day and age to help, so don't sit around and sulk. Get out there and take care of buisness. Perhaps have a few "late nights at the office" and stop for a beer somewhere new, or old. Make a new friend or 3, and pass some time after a day at work, don't sit at the house too long!
    -FATC1TY
    Grillin' and Brewing in Atlanta
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    MiniMax
  • Hans61
    Hans61 Posts: 3,901
    Divorce sucks; but for some, marriage is worse. 
    “There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”
    Coach Finstock Teen Wolf
  • Been there, done that.  Staying in the same house for that length of time is probably not going to work . #1 priority is your daughter - always.  Mediate if possible.  Whether it's court or mediation...make sure she can't move to another state w/ your daughter.  Don't speak badly of your wife to your daughter...kids grow up to be adults and figure it all out...it takes years, but they do...and you will be the good guy.
    Not all lawyers are evil...
    It's painful, but you will be happy again...
    I'm sorry for your suffering.  Stay strong, life will go on.



    2 Large BGE, MiniMax, Miami, FL

  • cssmd27
    cssmd27 Posts: 345
    Amicable divorces do happen.  Been there.  Filed it myself, but ex and I had agreed on everything before.  But, and it's a BIG BUT, we had no kids.  So, it was more like a long term dating relationship with assets and debt to split up.

    Whether you like it or not, marriage from the state's point of view is an economic relationship and nothing more.  Therefore, divorce is the same.  Divorce attorneys make their money by getting you to argue.  But, the judgement will always be within the standard deviation of "fair".  And, that likely will be a lot less than you'd pay an attorney fight.  If you guys can negotiate out a "fair" settlement (i.e. you are only moderately dissatisfied or better), you will likely come out ahead economically and you'll both save a ton of agony.

    Separate yourself from the anger you feel over the betrayal and the reality of the business negotiation that needs to take place.  As others have stated, most states don't get involved in who was right and wrong these days.  It's just an unwinding of a business relationship.
    Dallas (University Park), Texas
  • blasting
    blasting Posts: 6,262
    @BrevardAUEgger

    I'm the guy that said MOVE OUT.  @tarheelmatt pointed out you should talk to a lawyer first which I completely agree with.

    I was more focused on not putting yourself though the torture of trying to live together.  Somebody should move out, but a lawyer will give the best advice.   My biggest mistake was that I thought things would work out fair if I was reasonable.  Nobody cares about fair in divorce court.  Fight or lose.

    Again, all the best.

    Phoenix 
  • Mikee
    Mikee Posts: 897

    The marriage is over. You and your wife will need an attorney. That's when it gets the worse. While the both of you may want close to a 50-50 split, the attorneys are looking to grab 50% each. You would be better off working out a plan before going to an attorney. 

    It seems you're on the short end of the stick as she already has someone else. While it feels like a knife has been stuck thru your heart, you got to realize that life goes on.  Life will be pretty crappy for a while and you will be thinking why did this happen. You can only have some control over yourself. What she does and why she did them are not something you can do anything about.

  • Many say protect yourself.  I say protect your 5-year old.  She did not create this and needs both of her parents.  Definitely get a lawyer, but stay in control of what the lawyer does on your behalf.  Take the long-term view.  If you can work with your (ex) wife to some degree, and keep your daughter's best interests at the center of the divorce, your daughter will be much better off because of that.  Just one man's opinion.
    Twin Cities, Minn. XL BGE, cheap barrel smoker and old Weber kettle

  • Unfortunately, the laws are normally set up to screw the guy.  Therefore, ask for EVERYTHING.  The house, full custody of the child, child support, alimony, etc.  Start stashing away money now.

    If there has been adultery, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, physical abuse, etc:  Write down everything that has happened with specific times and dates while it's fresh in your mind.  You'll need that for discovery.

    If you leave right now and SHE files for divorce, she can say that you abandoned her and the family.  Don't leave until your attorney says you are able to.

    In the state of Alabama:  The awarding of alimony is determined by the need of one spouse requesting alimony and the ability of the other spouse to pay. If fault is a factor in the divorce, the judge has the right to make an allowance to either spouse out of the estate of either spouse, or not make an allowance as the circumstances of the case may justify.

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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,794
    Bump as it appears that this thread has been sunk...
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.