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Greasy Gasket advice needed

dldawes1
dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
As most know, I've been cooking alot of butts for events.  Six butts at a time creates a lot of greasy smoke. 

My Rutland gasket has come unglued in one 6-inch spot. Could have been from my lack of glue distribution when installing.  It is soaked with grease. I don't think I can clean it and re-glue it. The gasket did not leak or anything during the cooks....I guess it just absorbed some of the grease.

The Rutland still does not leak during cooks...but it just bothers me knowing it is unglued in that spot.

I have no problem just leaving it as-is. But I wanted to ask if anyone has a suggestion for regluing.  Since there is no cause to replace it, I'll continue as-is regardless. But if I can reglue it...I would like to.

Thanks,

Donnie






Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


Comments

  • I hope this link works to the Permatex Ultra Copper installation instructions.  They say start with a surface that is cleaned with solvent & dry.  I don't think re-gluing a greezy gasket will work.

    https://www.permatex.com/products/gasketing/ultra-series-gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker/

    Flint, Michigan
  • WeberWho
    WeberWho Posts: 11,540
    Do you have a mapp torch or a weed burner? Could you possibly go over/under the gasket with some heat and wipe off the melted grease? I have to re-glue my gasket down on occasion since I'm anal about a clean looking gasket when installing and not using globs of silicone. 
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    edited June 2016
    @RRP

    Donnie. I'd think you could carefully cleanup the ceramic and re-butter some Permatex for adhesion. As far as cleaning the gasket that could be tricky since it's fiberglass with graphite imbedded. Me?  I'd personally let it ride unless it's leaking like a sieve.  In which case, I'd just replace it rather than wasting my precious time dinking with the latter. 
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
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  • westernbbq
    westernbbq Posts: 2,490
    Get your egg tp 1100F and the next day the surface should be clean enough to apply glue to and the grease on the gasket should be vaporized
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,465
    I would try to soak as much grease off as I could and then do a burn out at a high temperature. Afterward the ceramic edge should be clean enough so you can re-apply a layer of fresh Permatex.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    All....I think I can clean the ceramic OK...but the gasket is grease soaked. 

    I am afraid that trying to degrease the Rutland will be more work than I want to tackle. I think I'll let it ride.

    I guess I just wanted confirmation !!!  You know me !!

    I may go ahead and order a new Rutland so I will have it on hand....in case I need to replace it due to more grease intake !

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,465
    dldawes1 said:
    All....I think I can clean the ceramic OK...but the gasket is grease soaked. 


    Agreed - clean the ceramic, BUT the thing is the bottom of the Rutland should have an embedded layer of Permatex which the mfg says will not absorb oil or grease. Just clean that exposed surface (bottom) of the existing dried Permatex so that the new Permatex bead which again you should butter on the ceramic side should adhere to. Give it a try...what do you have to lose if my suggestion is wrong?
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    RRP...that's what I love about this forum....so much knowledge.

    I did not even think about having the old permatex under the existing gasket.  Yes, I will clean the ceramic and the permatex and see how it looks and then re glue.

    Thank you again sir for your patience and understanding in helping us newbies !!!!!

    Hope you are having a good week !!

    Thanks,

    Donnie

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • ScottNC
    ScottNC Posts: 240
    Could always sip the piece out, clean or replace the 6" and then glue back in? I know I can't even see where my back splice is from orig install

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  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    ScottNC...another good idea...thanks !!!

    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,465
    ScottNC said:
    Could always sip the piece out, clean or replace the 6" and then glue back in? I know I can't even see where my back splice is from orig install
    I assume for "sip" you meant snip - but honestly I would not recommend that. Reason is you have now introduced 4 new butt ends due to the cuts in the braids.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • Darby_Crenshaw
    Darby_Crenshaw Posts: 2,657
    edited June 2016
    first do no harm.  there's no reason to do more work than you need to.  if the quickfix fails, THEN feel free to expand the effort.

    just quirt some under and see it if works.  if you work it into the fibers it will mesh and form a mechanical bond around the fibers, grease or not.  it should hold.  but if it doesn't THEN you can take it off and do a thorough cleaning. if you must, just rub/clean the ceramic with acetone (no, it won't harm the ceramic or 'contaminate it')

    here's why i don't think you need to fuss too much:

    when i first came up with the idea to try permatex (ten+ years ago), it was out of frustration. i already had a rutland installed, but i used the crappy cement that used to come with it and which was the forum rule.  that cement may work for metal stoves, but not ceramic.  the old rutland cement was water based, and the ceramic wicked it away before it fully cured, so there was a bond break.

    eventually i had a few large sections of un-adhered gasket.  i still used the egg though, which meant grease and smoke

    while getting lump at a local hardware store, I decided to look for alternative adhesives.  i found the permatex, then (maybe still) sold as "gasket maker" (copper colored), for automobiles.  said it was good to 600.  i knew the dome temp got hotter than 600, but not the ceramic itself, and figured what the heck?

    why the big preamble?  because i didn't even clean the rim. i literally grabbed the rutland where it was loose, tore off the whole thing, and, in frustration at the repeated failures of the rutland adheisve, simply squirted an arbitrary bead of the permatex right through the soot and dirt of the rim, and reapplied the same gasket, jamming it into the adhesive and shutting the lid.  pure spite. if that didn't work i would regroup and figure out something else.

    but it worked. and even a former 'rutland adhesive' advocate has come around to ditching the stov cement and recommends permatex.

    haven't touched that gasket in more than ten years.

    so don't bother with cutting out sections or fastidious cleaning.  give it a shot and see what happens.


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  • dldawes1
    dldawes1 Posts: 2,208
    edited June 2016
    Why I love my BGE Forum...

    ....and the knowledge and experience continues.....

    How did I get by my first 52-1/2 years without you folks?  I'll never know !

    BGE should use the forum as a selling point in their BGE literature.


    Donnie Dawes - RNNL8 BBQ - Carrollton, KY  

    TWIN XLBGEs, 1-Beautiful wife, 1 XS Yorkie

    I'm keeping serious from now on...no more joking around from me...Meatheads !! 


  • gmac
    gmac Posts: 1,814
    I thought this was gonna be an olestra thread. 
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  • Darby_Crenshaw
    Darby_Crenshaw Posts: 2,657
    "may cause anal leakage".  my favorite product warning of all time.

    and they said it like it was a bad thing.
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