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rutland gasket

bhedges1987
bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
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So got a new egg and table last night, and finally going to put on my rutland.  Auto Zone here had "Permatex, Super high tack gasket sealant." I know he recommends Permatex Ultra Copper.  Do any of you know if what I have purchased will work?

Thanks

Kansas City, Missouri
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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    edited February 2016
    No idea. I do know that Ultra Copper does work. Ace Hardware has it. Though so did Auto Zone last time I looked.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
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  • NPHuskerFL
    NPHuskerFL Posts: 17,629
    edited February 2016
    The Permatex you purchased 
    http://www.permatex.com/products-2/product-categories/gasketing/gasket-sealants/permatex-super-high-tack-gasket-sealant-detail

    VS Permatex Ultra Copper 
    http://www.permatex.com/products-2/product-categories/gasketing/gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-copper-maximum-temperature-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-detail

    My opinion is no. The Rutland gasket won't fail but the adhesive will. Use the Ultra Copper. 
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
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    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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  • ScottNC
    ScottNC Posts: 240
    ^^^^That, 400º vs 700º

    Western, North Carolina

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  • GregW
    GregW Posts: 2,678
    Super tack -65 to 500 deg range
    Ultra Copper -65 to 600. 700 intermittent
    From what I can find out. 
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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    Thanks. I did indeed find it at ace. 

    Kansas City, Missouri
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    Yes, the "he" you referred to still recommends the Permatex Ultra Copper! =)
    Glad you found it. Surprisingly that product is easily found all around the world!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • nth78
    nth78 Posts: 154
    I know it's not rated for quite as high of temps as the copper, but I read that the red was rated as food safe.  I haven't used either and don't have a Rutland yet, but if that is a concern I thought I would pass it along
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    nth78 said:
    I know it's not rated for quite as high of temps as the copper, but I read that the red was rated as food safe.  I haven't used either and don't have a Rutland yet, but if that is a concern I thought I would pass it along
    Mind giving me a link to that "food safe" claim? The company Technical Data sheets say nothing to that affect.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • nth78
    nth78 Posts: 154
    RRP said:
    nth78 said:
    I know it's not rated for quite as high of temps as the copper, but I read that the red was rated as food safe.  I haven't used either and don't have a Rutland yet, but if that is a concern I thought I would pass it along
    Mind giving me a link to that "food safe" claim? The company Technical Data sheets say nothing to that affect.
    http://www.devcon.com/userfiles/file/mb-06_nsf_2011_high_rez.pdf

    This is what I saw
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    edited February 2016
    nth78 said:
    RRP said:
    nth78 said:
    I know it's not rated for quite as high of temps as the copper, but I read that the red was rated as food safe.  I haven't used either and don't have a Rutland yet, but if that is a concern I thought I would pass it along
    Mind giving me a link to that "food safe" claim? The company Technical Data sheets say nothing to that affect.
    http://www.devcon.com/userfiles/file/mb-06_nsf_2011_high_rez.pdf

    This is what I saw
    Thanks.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
    Ron,  I think the item you refer to is actually a lubricant.  Above it they list a High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket.  NSF/ANSI 51 registered.  Item 81160 Temp range of -65º to 600º, 650º intermittent.

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  • henapple
    henapple Posts: 16,025
    You got a new egg.... Use the gasket it came with. No need to change till it's needed. 
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    henapple said:
    You got a new egg.... Use the gasket it came with. No need to change till it's needed. 
    Ya debated that.  But I heard they can be a pain to take off after they have been used.   My stock gasket on my other egg I never replaced and still works fine.  Figure I would do this one while it's easy.

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  • Jeremiah
    Jeremiah Posts: 6,412
    bhedges1987 said:
    henapple said:
    You got a new egg.... Use the gasket it came with. No need to change till it's needed. 
    Ya debated that.  But I heard they can be a pain to take off after they have been used.   My stock gasket on my other egg I never replaced and still works fine.  Figure I would do this one while it's easy.
    I finally installed my Rutland today, after having it for over a year and the egg is 3, the factory gasket almost fell off after the clean burn. Hell it was so shot it didn't even resemble a gasket lol
    Slumming it in Aiken, SC. 
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  • nth78
    nth78 Posts: 154
    jtcBoynton said:
    Ron,  I think the item you refer to is actually a lubricant.  Above it they list a High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket.  NSF/ANSI 51 registered.  Item 81160 Temp range of -65º to 600º, 650º intermittent.

    Item 81160 was what I was originally referring to.  Again I haven't used it and am certainly not recommending it, as I am waiting until my original gasket fails before getting a Rutland.  I just thought some people might feel safer trying it since it was NSF certified.  I'm sure the copper holds better at higher temps
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    nth78 said:
    jtcBoynton said:
    Ron,  I think the item you refer to is actually a lubricant.  Above it they list a High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket.  NSF/ANSI 51 registered.  Item 81160 Temp range of -65º to 600º, 650º intermittent.

    Item 81160 was what I was originally referring to.  Again I haven't used it and am certainly not recommending it, as I am waiting until my original gasket fails before getting a Rutland.  I just thought some people might feel safer trying it since it was NSF certified.  I'm sure the copper holds better at higher temps
    A Rutland gasket is not certified for use with food so I'm a bit puzzled why you would focus on just the adhesive used not being "NSF Approved".
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    So I let it cure for 24 hours. Taking the top stock gasket off now. The sticky residue under the felt feels like it's going to stick to my Rutland when I close the lid. Tried rubbing alcohol on it. Not working great. Any recommended products? Thanks

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  • bhedges1987
    bhedges1987 Posts: 3,201
    Edit * I've found that to remove the sticky residue under the felt, I can just roll my fingers on it and it rolls up. 

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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    edited February 2016
    sort of bassackwards. You should have cleaned the old off first. What I recommend is a 3M or knock off brand Rust & Paint Remover wheel chucked into a quarter inch drill. Then a pumice stone to remove the rest. I'm not one for using a chemical to remove the residue, but suit yourself.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • nth78
    nth78 Posts: 154
    HeavyG said:
    nth78 said:
    jtcBoynton said:
    Ron,  I think the item you refer to is actually a lubricant.  Above it they list a High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket.  NSF/ANSI 51 registered.  Item 81160 Temp range of -65º to 600º, 650º intermittent.

    Item 81160 was what I was originally referring to.  Again I haven't used it and am certainly not recommending it, as I am waiting until my original gasket fails before getting a Rutland.  I just thought some people might feel safer trying it since it was NSF certified.  I'm sure the copper holds better at higher temps
    A Rutland gasket is not certified for use with food so I'm a bit puzzled why you would focus on just the adhesive used not being "NSF Approved".
    I've seen concerns that the adhesive would give off some toxic fumes when exposed to high temps.  Again, I was just trying to be helpful to those that are apprehensive.  I am in no way recommending anything.
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    nth78 said:

    I've seen concerns that the adhesive would give off some toxic fumes when exposed to high temps.  Again, I was just trying to be helpful to those that are apprehensive.  I am in no way recommending anything.
    There's a lot of us who have been using the gaskets and Permatex for 14 years now and we're still alive! Suit yourself.
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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  • henapple
    henapple Posts: 16,025
    Wwwhhhhhhhaaaaa :D
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
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  • nth78
    nth78 Posts: 154
    RRP said:
    nth78 said:

    I've seen concerns that the adhesive would give off some toxic fumes when exposed to high temps.  Again, I was just trying to be helpful to those that are apprehensive.  I am in no way recommending anything.
    There's a lot of us who have been using the gaskets and Permatex for 14 years now and we're still alive! Suit yourself.
    I feel like I must be typing in another language.  I don't know how many different ways to say I'm not recommending anything.  I simply saw something that might be of help.  I won't make that mistake again.  
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    nth78 said:

    I feel like I must be typing in another language.  I don't know how many different ways to say I'm not recommending anything.  I simply saw something that might be of help.  I won't make that mistake again.  
    LOL - no problem!!!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
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