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Pits - Aaron Franklin

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  • CtTOPGUN
    CtTOPGUN Posts: 612
     I understand the limitations of the Kamodo cookers. But I actually prefer the moisture retention and milder smoke(yet still some added smoke flavor) I get with my BGE. Temp control is also so much easier. So, yes it does kinda lean towards being an outdoor oven. Is this bad?

       Jim
    LBGE/Weber Kettle/Blackstone 36" Griddle/Turkey Fryer/Induction Burner/Royal Gourmet 24" Griddle/Cuisinart Twin Oaks/Pit Boss Tabletop pellet smoker/Instant Pot

     BBQ from the State of Connecticut!

       Jim
  • CtTOPGUN said:
     I understand the limitations of the Kamodo cookers. But I actually prefer the moisture retention and milder smoke(yet still some added smoke flavor) I get with my BGE. Temp control is also so much easier. So, yes it does kinda lean towards being an outdoor oven. Is this bad?

       Jim
    I totally agree.  Meat isn't cheap.  I think the moisture retention and the consistency from cooking with BGE make it the best choice for someone who isn't retired and or cooking every day with all the the time and money in the world... Lol.   Nothing worse than spending several hours prepping/cooking and The finished product be crap.  
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    Depositing heat and smoke on the exterior of meat is a matter the egg can handle.  Get a sous vide setup and you can work the interior of the meat with infinite variables and the egg can handle the outside part just fine.   You will be a meat god. No need to deal with the single solution obtaining gear that costs a lot of money.  Unless you do a lot of volume, commercial level volume, then it starts reaping rewards.  That said, I don't know jack about competition stuff, they may not allow sous vide. 
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  • cazzy
    cazzy Posts: 9,136
    Depositing heat and smoke on the exterior of meat is a matter the egg can handle.  Get a sous vide setup and you can work the interior of the meat with infinite variables and the egg can handle the outside part just fine.   You will be a meat god. No need to deal with the single solution obtaining gear that costs a lot of money.  Unless you do a lot of volume, commercial level volume, then it starts reaping rewards.  That said, I don't know jack about competition stuff, they may not allow sous vide. 
    As long as it's cooked on site, I think all is game.  This would probably limit SV to chicken though.  
    Just a hack that makes some $hitty BBQ....
  • SkySaw
    SkySaw Posts: 656
    There was a similar discussion not too long ago. I learned that lo-and-slow is more for the cooker than the meat. Apparently stick burners are not very good at cooking hot and fast, as the ideal firebox environment for smoke production results in a cooking environment of around 250º. On the other hand, the Egg can cook (and smoke) happily at 325º-350º. I think this is why turbo-butts work so well on the Egg, and if I was still Egging butts I would turbo them from now on.

    I also learned that there is a difference between a small fire and a smouldering fire, and that's where differences of opinion about the ability of an Egg to produce decent smoke come from. An Egg can not produce the volume of good smoke that an offset smoker can produce, full stop; but try smoking a butt or brisket in Canada in the winter on an offset. Every style of cooker has its tradeoffs. That's why we need so many of them!
  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,836
    cazzy said:
    Depositing heat and smoke on the exterior of meat is a matter the egg can handle.  Get a sous vide setup and you can work the interior of the meat with infinite variables and the egg can handle the outside part just fine.   You will be a meat god. No need to deal with the single solution obtaining gear that costs a lot of money.  Unless you do a lot of volume, commercial level volume, then it starts reaping rewards.  That said, I don't know jack about competition stuff, they may not allow sous vide. 
    As long as it's cooked on site, I think all is game.  This would probably limit SV to chicken though.  
    For KCBS sanctioned events, everything must be cooked over a wood burning fire. So SV would be not be allowed. Pellet smokers are allowed since the heat is coming from burning wood pellets, electric is only used to run the auger and igniter. 
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
  • cazzy
    cazzy Posts: 9,136
    DMW said:
    cazzy said:
    Depositing heat and smoke on the exterior of meat is a matter the egg can handle.  Get a sous vide setup and you can work the interior of the meat with infinite variables and the egg can handle the outside part just fine.   You will be a meat god. No need to deal with the single solution obtaining gear that costs a lot of money.  Unless you do a lot of volume, commercial level volume, then it starts reaping rewards.  That said, I don't know jack about competition stuff, they may not allow sous vide. 
    As long as it's cooked on site, I think all is game.  This would probably limit SV to chicken though.  
    For KCBS sanctioned events, everything must be cooked over a wood burning fire. So SV would be not be allowed. Pellet smokers are allowed since the heat is coming from burning wood pellets, electric is only used to run the auger and igniter. 
    Well there you go.
    Just a hack that makes some $hitty BBQ....
  • Thatgrimguy
    Thatgrimguy Posts: 4,738
    cazzy said:
    Depositing heat and smoke on the exterior of meat is a matter the egg can handle.  Get a sous vide setup and you can work the interior of the meat with infinite variables and the egg can handle the outside part just fine.   You will be a meat god. No need to deal with the single solution obtaining gear that costs a lot of money.  Unless you do a lot of volume, commercial level volume, then it starts reaping rewards.  That said, I don't know jack about competition stuff, they may not allow sous vide. 
    As long as it's cooked on site, I think all is game.  This would probably limit SV to chicken though.  
    Negative. You have to use pellets, charcoal or wood.  No gas or electric and no indoor cooking techniques. You aren't even allowed to heat up sauce on a stove top (people still do though)
    XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
  • cazzy
    cazzy Posts: 9,136
    cazzy said:
    Depositing heat and smoke on the exterior of meat is a matter the egg can handle.  Get a sous vide setup and you can work the interior of the meat with infinite variables and the egg can handle the outside part just fine.   You will be a meat god. No need to deal with the single solution obtaining gear that costs a lot of money.  Unless you do a lot of volume, commercial level volume, then it starts reaping rewards.  That said, I don't know jack about competition stuff, they may not allow sous vide. 
    As long as it's cooked on site, I think all is game.  This would probably limit SV to chicken though.  
    Negative. You have to use pellets, charcoal or wood.  No gas or electric and no indoor cooking techniques. You aren't even allowed to heat up sauce on a stove top (people still do though)
    cazzy said:
    Depositing heat and smoke on the exterior of meat is a matter the egg can handle.  Get a sous vide setup and you can work the interior of the meat with infinite variables and the egg can handle the outside part just fine.   You will be a meat god. No need to deal with the single solution obtaining gear that costs a lot of money.  Unless you do a lot of volume, commercial level volume, then it starts reaping rewards.  That said, I don't know jack about competition stuff, they may not allow sous vide. 
    As long as it's cooked on site, I think all is game.  This would probably limit SV to chicken though.  
    Negative. You have to use pellets, charcoal or wood.  No gas or electric and no indoor cooking techniques. You aren't even allowed to heat up sauce on a stove top (people still do though)
    Yep...DMW responded a few days ago saying the same.
    Just a hack that makes some $hitty BBQ....
  • Thatgrimguy
    Thatgrimguy Posts: 4,738
    Impulse responding! 
    XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
  • Lit
    Lit Posts: 9,053
    edited November 2015
    SkySaw said:
    There was a similar discussion not too long ago. I learned that lo-and-slow is more for the cooker than the meat. Apparently stick burners are not very good at cooking hot and fast, as the ideal firebox environment for smoke production results in a cooking environment of around 250º. On the other hand, the Egg can cook (and smoke) happily at 325º-350º. I think this is why turbo-butts work so well on the Egg, and if I was still Egging butts I would turbo them from now on.

    I also learned that there is a difference between a small fire and a smouldering fire, and that's where differences of opinion about the ability of an Egg to produce decent smoke come from. An Egg can not produce the volume of good smoke that an offset smoker can produce, full stop; but try smoking a butt or brisket in Canada in the winter on an offset. Every style of cooker has its tradeoffs. That's why we need so many of them!
    I cooked this rack of pork at 400 in my vertical running it like a stick burner. Not an issue at all running it hot the hard part is sometimes keeping it low with something insulated well. That's why you have to keep a small hot fire so you don't get a large hot fire and run too hot. I have taken my vertical to 500 degrees before with no issues at all.
  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,137
    Lit said:

    That rack of pork looks fantastic...
    Thank you,
    Darian

    Galveston Texas
  • Lit
    Lit Posts: 9,053
    Thanks @Photo Egg . Overshot it by a couple degrees but still good. I cut both ends off and a neighbor and I stood in the garage and ate them with our hands. Sliced another for his wife and these were left for a picture.