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Secret to making crispy wings?

I have tried 5 or so times to make wings and I cannot get them crispy.  I do the corn starch and do indirect until the temp is done as I don't want to overcook.  Whats the secret to making the skin real crispy but not overcooking them?
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,597
    what works for me is direct, about 300 degrees dome on a raised grid, the thicker skin side down until its cooked, then flip. cook the skin first, then the chicken, comes out crispy even when i take it directly out of the marinade and toss on the grill. im also shooting for about 185 internal with wings
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • For me it's been high heat 450-500 as high in the dome as I can get. Indirect. 
  • I had some real success this weekend with wings.  I was going to do raised direct using my adjustable rig but at last minute decided to go indirect and still raised way up in the dome.  I am learning that the dome really reflects some nice heat for chicken skin and pizzas.   I cooked mine at only 350 and cooked for 1hr 30 min flipping every 30 min.  I only used salt and pepper seasoning to start but also coated mildly in peanut oil.  I am sure any light oil coating will aid the crisping process.  

    For anyone interested, I also made a sauce of chili sauce, spicy garlic chili sauce, some sri racha, a dollop of honey and two tablespoons of soy.  Best Wong sauce I have ever made.


  • tjv
    tjv Posts: 3,846
    get 'em up in the dome, 350ish temp, little over an hour,  careful with rubs that have a bunch of sugar, sugar burns over 300 degrees. small wings better than big wings.  don't be a wing flipping maniac while grilling.  after pulling, let em rest about 15 minutes but do not cover. 


    www.ceramicgrillstore.com ACGP, Inc.
  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    tjv said:
    get 'em up in the dome, 350ish temp, little over an hour ...
    @tjv ... are you cooking them direct or indirect?

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • tjv
    tjv Posts: 3,846
    edited September 2015
    tjv said:
    get 'em up in the dome, 350ish temp, little over an hour ...
    @tjv ... are you cooking them direct or indirect?
      @Jeepster47  I do wings direct, take full advantage of the radiant heat.  also, even burn across the lump to insure a concentric heat plume.  
    www.ceramicgrillstore.com ACGP, Inc.
  • Jeepster47
    Jeepster47 Posts: 3,827
    @tjv ... thanks.

    I've been cooking them at about 350 raised indirect for approximately 35 minutes when they hit the 190 to 200 degree internal.  Then pull the PSWoo2, plate setter and food grid ... returning the food grid to direct at the fire ring to cook for an additional couple of minutes per side.

    Yesterday, I cooked them for about 45 minutes ... well past the 190 to 200 degree IT.  Then did the reverse sear for about four minutes per side.  They were better.

    Thus, the question ... do you simply ignore internal temp and cook until the skin is crispy?

    Washington, IL  >  Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max

  • MaC122
    MaC122 Posts: 797
    for some reason I thought that I could smoke my wings at 250 for 2 hours and then deep fry them for a crisp skin. The wings were already way over done after I pulled them off the smoker and when I threw them in the fryer they seemed to fall apart. I fried them for about a minute and they were like shoe leather. Never again. From now on smoke at 250 for an hour and the 425 to finish and crisp the skin.
    St. Johns County, Florida
  • tjv
    tjv Posts: 3,846
    @jeepster47   I don't check internal temp on wings. not much meat to worry about.  most folks eat wings for the flavor that is added, whether it be a rub, sauce, or char.  we use the wing (skin) as the tool to get the flavors in our mouth.  any meat that comes along for the ride is a bonus.  

    Ya never hear anybody say,  man the meat on those wings was fantastic.  You do hear 'em say, those wings had great flavor or perfect skin.  

    So, guess the short answer is I worry about the skin more than meat.   Don't want to super over cook the meat but it's not my biggest concern.  

    Now I'm Jonesin' for wings.........     
    www.ceramicgrillstore.com ACGP, Inc.
  • TigerTony
    TigerTony Posts: 1,078
    I've learned to love wings cooked on my egg without crispy skin. Tender, juicy, flavorful, awesome wings, but not crispy. 
    If I had to cook crispy skined wings, I'd fry them.
    But that's just me. 
    The information and techniques that you received above comes from some very experienced cooks. I'm sure they are giving you solid advice. I've never tried all the suggestions, but what I have tried doesn't produce crispy skin. 
    Wings on the egg don't have to be crispy to be great.
    Crispy skin is overrated. Imo
    "I'm stupidest when I try to be funny" 
    New Orleans

  • RRog17
    RRog17 Posts: 572
    350 raised direct!
    Canton, GA
    LBGE, Joe Jr., 28” Blackstone
  • tjv
    tjv Posts: 3,846
    @TigerTony   it's not so much about crispy skin, but all about rendered skin.  last thing ya want to do is chew the skin like a stick of bazooka gum........

    t
    www.ceramicgrillstore.com ACGP, Inc.
  • smbishop
    smbishop Posts: 3,061
    High in the dome, direct.  Nothing else needed.  I use a dome temp around 400ish..  Always have crispy skin.  :)
    Southlake, TX and Cowhouse Creek - King, TX.  2 Large, 1 Small and a lot of Eggcessories.
  • 2 big things work for me. The most important is getting the egg hot enough. With indirect or raised direct, if the fire isn't hot enough the skin never gets crispy. I go back and forth between these options as raised direct is great right at 425-450, but you get a ton of smoke with it from the burning fat. Indirect slows the fat coming down, but I've had the liquid fat ignite, taking care of that pesky forearm hair for me.

    The other key is letting the egg get to temp, meaning letting the ceramics get hot. When the dome is hot, it will radiate heat back to the wings to act as another heat source, thus getting the skin even crisper. I start skin down for 20, then flip and go skin up until crispy, usually another 15 to 20. This works pretty well for me.
    Pittsburgh, PA - 1 LBGE
  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    edited September 2015
    Corn starch and sauce when done. Marinades will hurt your efforts for crispy skin. The corn starch should get the skin very crispy. Do not ouch them when you put them on the egg. As advised above leave th alone for a long while. I don't care if you go direct or indirect. I prefer indirect. No need to get the temp above 350 IMO. I would say I cook them 75% before flipping, if I even flip at all. I usually do just for color. If you leave the skin up with starch and leave them alone,the top will crisp. 
  • Mosca
    Mosca Posts: 456
    Direct, grate at regular level, 375*.
  • kcw
    kcw Posts: 58
    Did some yesterday covered with Jamacian Fire Walk 225-250° indirect for an hour and half high in the dome. Then went direct @ 400° for 10 mins or so flipping every few mins. Crispy and juicy.
  • @tjv: Tom, what is a concentric heat plume?
    Judy in San Diego
  • My gosh I want WINGS!!!!!!!!
    1) XLBGE                  1) PK's Pro 100 pound capacity commercial grade electric smoker
    2) Chief smokers        1) Brinkmann...first smoker...gave to a buddy after years of great service.
    1) Char Broil Gas grill  1) Square Char Broil coal grill   1) Round XL Weber round coal grill
    1) Rotisserie for the Weber grill (AWESOME).....I don't have a problem, I can stop anytime I want...I can.
  • tjv
    tjv Posts: 3,846
    @Judy Mayberry  

      
    Judy Mayberry said:
    @tjv: Tom, what is a concentric heat plume?
    it's where the heat rising off the lump is evenly spread out to match the cooking grid above.   to do this the lump needs to be evenly burning over the entire fire bowl.  

    many new folks to ceramic grills only light the lump in the middle with one starter cube when grilling.  then they wonder why the edges of the cooking grid won't cook like the middle.   Simple example of how radiant heat works.

     




     
    www.ceramicgrillstore.com ACGP, Inc.
  • blakeas
    blakeas Posts: 244
    so basically I need to get a raised grid if I read all the responses correct?  what do people suggest?
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    edited September 2015
    Ceramic grill store. Call Tom  @tjv and discuss your needs and options. He will set you up. 

    Ceramicgrillstore.com
  • Cookinbob
    Cookinbob Posts: 1,691
    I did these raised indirect at 375. 30 min, flip, 20 min, sauced, 10 min and served. Crispy and done to my liking
    XLBGE, Small BGE, Homebrew and Guitars
    Rochester, NY
  • Simcan
    Simcan Posts: 287
    I have had the best results from tossing the wings in corn starch so they are completely covered, then drying on a rack in the fridge for at least several hours or even overnight.  Then I spritz with canola oil just to hold then rub, apply, and cook at 400 for about an hour, moving and flipping to avoid burnt spots.  Raised indirect.  The key is to render out the fat, after which the skin gets crispy.  As you can see, there are about a million "right" ways to do it, but that works for me,
    Toronto ON
  • blakeas said:
    so basically I need to get a raised grid if I read all the responses correct?  what do people suggest?

    Buy big wings (from butcher) and overcook.

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • Simcan
    Simcan Posts: 287
    edited September 2015
    I agree with @Little_Steven.  Buying big wings allows you to cook it long enough to render out the fat without drying out the meat.
    Toronto ON
  • THEBuckeye
    THEBuckeye Posts: 4,232
    I go raised direct at 375 for about 20 minutes a side. 
    New Albany, Ohio 

  • Mosca
    Mosca Posts: 456
    blakeas said:
    so basically I need to get a raised grid if I read all the responses correct?  what do people suggest?
    No you don't. I do mine at the regular level, and they are fine. Just keep an eye on them.
  • blakeas
    blakeas Posts: 244
    I have tried five times, doing the grate on top of a platesetter (indirect) and cook them to temp (I use a thermapen) and the skin is always doughy