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First slow cook - wait on temp probe

Hello all. Just got my XL BGE yesterday. My first direct cook was horrible hamburgers but I am not going to ask about that until I try again. What I was wondering was my first indirect. I have a 7 lb pork shoulder that I want to try. Should I attempt this without an "automated" temp probe? I do have a Thermapen but I don't have the automated probes that keep constant tabs visible. So I will be forced to guess and open the grill a few times and keep checking, which I assume will slow things down and make it more difficult to get correct. 
XL egg owner, home brewer, jogger, coffee roaster, gamer 

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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,748
    edited January 2014
    Congrats and welcome aboard!

    never mind rest of post, I misunderstood  ... <deleted>  :\">
    canuckland
  • i've never used any sort of automated temp probe and cooked dozens of butts, usually overnight or while I'm at work.  Just make sure you have a stable fire somewhere in the 225-285 range on the dome thermometer, and let 'er go.  I'd do my first thermapen check on the meat around the ten hour mark.  Have had butts that size done in as little as 12 hours and as long as 20 depending on the temp the egg settled in at.
    Pentwater, MI
  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,748
    edited January 2014
    <deleted>  :\">  

    great way to bump up my post count though!
    canuckland
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,632
    just test your dome gage in boiling water for accuracy and cook at 250, start checking at 10 hours, will probably finish up by 14. even the thermapen is not needed, stick it with a butter knife or skewer and when it slips in with hardley any resistance its done. pulled pork was my first cook, very easy, when i first started hamburgers on the egg they were lousy for the first few tries
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,839

    If you have an analog thermo that you can leave in the meat (or pick one up at a supermarket for around $5) you can align it so that you see the thermo thru the dome top and significantly reduce air loss when checking  the temp.  (Just make sure you get the dfmt back on with the same openings).  You can calibrate the analog (use your thermopen as a reference)  so it will be good enough to get you close before opting for the thermopen. 

    Also align the desired finish temp in the vertical (12 o'clock) position so all you have to do is glance at the needle to know whether you are close.  I've had to use this method on occasion and it works.

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    I had a hard time learning how to achieve and keep a low temperature cook when I got my 1st Egg. Once I felt confident about keeping a steady low temp, I decided to do my first over nite butt, and use a Maverick therm w. probe and remote alert. I rapidly learned that the remote set-up wasn't necessary if I was willing to check the temp every 4 hours.

    I don't have a problem waking once a night to check temp, but I suppose many people would. FWIW, once I had learned temp control, most mid-nite checks were just a re-assurance, there was no adjustment necessary.

    Over the past year or so, many people have been doing "turbo" butts. I had earlier read about competition cooks that did their butts around 350F. I was dubious, but have reasonably good results, and others here have reported fine results. At that temp, a 7 pounder could/should be cooked within a daytime. Still would need a few checks to inspect the temp, but nothing too burdensome.

    FWIW, I've noticed that after the 6 seconds or so it takes to insert a thermopen, and get a temp reading, the dome temp is back up in 5 - 7 min. Slows the cooking some, but not too much for me.
  • pretzelb
    pretzelb Posts: 158
    Thanks for the tips. The burger tonight were improved (no harsh charcoal taste) except that the rare ones were too rare (cold) in the middle. I think I need to calibrate the dome thermometer and learn what my times are going to be with this new tool. Sounds like calibrating the dome thermometer is key for the pork shoulder too. 

    I might push the pork shoulder to next week or the week after. I haven't got confidence yet in my ability to dial in a constant temperature. I might give the turbo option a try for the first one. 
    XL egg owner, home brewer, jogger, coffee roaster, gamer 
  • jhl192
    jhl192 Posts: 1,006
    I wouldn't push the Shoulder back a week or two.  The first low and slow or two are great learning experiences.  You will probably have it figured out before the 14 hours is up.  It is hard to screw it up as long as you get the internal temp to 190 to 195 before you pull it off.  BTW ,  you are looking at about 1/2 inch opening on the bottom vent and the daisey wheel swung open 1/8th inch on the top vent of the XL for 230 to 250 degrees.  That much more closed than I would have ever guessed.  Good luck.  Set the expectations low and everyone will be pleasantly surprised.  
    XL BGE; Medium BGE; L BGE 
  • EggoMatic
    EggoMatic Posts: 130
    Look at it this way. Each time you fire that egg up, you are gaining experience on a cook. Whether it's a low n slow, or a turbo - either way you are going to learn something from it. You have made a big investment in purchasing something that's going to be around for years to come. You will be a master of dialing that egg to the desired temp in no time. Keep at it!
    LBGE Virginia Beach, Virginia