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Canadian Bacon 7-10-12
Doc_Eggerton
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Makin' bacon, Canadian style, eh?
This was done using Michael Ruhlman's recipe for brined pork loin. Based on past experience I reduced kosher salt by 1/2 cup, and I took creative license to use brown sugar instead of white.
Got very steady and held at 203 for 4 hours and 15 minutes until the internal was 150. Indirect, plate setter legs up and grid. Let it cool for about 30 minutes under a towel before tasting. Used a lot of apple chunks.
As you would expect, tastes just like ham. OMG is this good. If this freezes OK, I may have bought my last ham.
Pics to follow.
This was done using Michael Ruhlman's recipe for brined pork loin. Based on past experience I reduced kosher salt by 1/2 cup, and I took creative license to use brown sugar instead of white.
Got very steady and held at 203 for 4 hours and 15 minutes until the internal was 150. Indirect, plate setter legs up and grid. Let it cool for about 30 minutes under a towel before tasting. Used a lot of apple chunks.
As you would expect, tastes just like ham. OMG is this good. If this freezes OK, I may have bought my last ham.
Pics to follow.
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Nice. How long did you brine?LBGE, Weber OTG w/ Rotisserie, Weber Genesis S-330, Chargriller Duo, AR-15, AK-47
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Wow, just read the recipe - I've got to try this!
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Nice. How long did you brine?
48 hours, then on a rack in the fridge for another 12.
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I sliced mine and then froze. It freezes very well. ;;)Every day is a bonus day and every meal is a banquet in Winter Springs, Fl !
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That just went on my list of things to do. Thanks for the link NOLA.
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I just made the brine and started soaking/curing the pork last night. I don't have any sodium nitrate/nitrite, but I ordered some today and I'll throw it in the brine on day three. I don't want botulism to cultivate, and the nitrous oxide it generates attaches to the hemoglobin in the meat and gives you a nice red color (rather than grey).
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If you like this, I would really recommend getting his book, Charcuterie. It's loaded with a bunch of good recipes. I really liked the whiskey glazed chicken. You brine a chicken using #1 curing salt. It really adds something to the chicken. Not quite like ham though. I would like to try it with a duck one of these days.
I plan on ordering his lastest book, Salumi....should be out next month.
And it does freeze very well. I slice mine while it's warm, and then freeze smaller portions in foodsaver bags.
Nice job on the bacon!
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Unless you’re free lancing take another look at the recipe. I believe it is brine for 48 hours, then refrigerate for 12 hours, uncovered.
I am not sure how the late introduction of pink salt will fare either, the brine needs to be heated for the salts to go into solution.
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If you like this, I would really recommend getting his book, Charcuterie. .
Thanks, that is exactly where I got the recipe. Last one I did was the brined turkey, and boy was that good. When it cools down some here I am going to do some dry sausage.
Nice job on the bacon!
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I have yet to make some dried sausage. I am wanting to get a small fridge to use for that....but I just don't have the time right now......maybe one of these days.
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I'm reading three days: "Submerge the pork loin in the brine (or put it all in a large zip topUnless you’re free lancing take another look at the recipe. I believe it is brine for 48 hours, then refrigerate for 12 hours, uncovered.
I am not sure how the late introduction of pink salt will fare either, the brine needs to be heated for the salts to go into solution.
bag) and refrigerate for 72 hours (give or take a few hours depending on
your schedule)."
I made the brine with half the water on the stove, then added the other half of the water as ice to cool it down. Everything dissolved. Then I poured it into a freezer bag and added the pork. When I get the pink salt, I'll take a cup or so of the brine and dissolve it. If I have to heat, I will, but it's only 9 grams (according to the directions of the pink salt) for 1/2 gallon water. The majority of the sodium chloride (70 grams) is already in the brine. I've seen cured bacon without the nitrate/nitrites before. So I'm not so worried about the taste, I just would like to get the nice pink color.
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Ok, just checked, the pink salt is 6.25% sodium nitrite. Solubility of that is 84.8 g/100 mL (25 °C). Should dissolve fine.
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the pink salts change the texture too, and introduce a piquancy you can't get from salt alone.
short timing nitrite will lead to a pink ring surrounding a middle of white pork. i brine (it's really a pickle, at this point) loin for 3 days, and a day of that time is maybe not entirely needed. meaning, most of the pickle might be effected in 2 days.
if you go a day extra, you might have better luck. i don't see the nitrite making it's way in to the middle in a day. extra day won;t make it too salty, it will have already reached equilibrium. pork is stored in a brine for weeks on end (or used to be) in france. pre-fridges.
problem i see is that the pickle is drawn into the meat given the lower concentration of salts in the muscle. at a certain point this stops though, when there's a relative amount of equilibrium. if the nitrite is in the brine from day one, it will be drawn in fully, eventually, along with the salt.
if adding nitrite toward the end of this process, i am not sure it will be drawn in at the same rate. its absorption may be complicated by the brine having nearly equalized. party is already over, salt everywhere, and nitrite is knocking at the door "hey dudes, let me in".
i know from first hand experience that short-timing the nitrite will produce a roast stuffed inside a ham (pink ham surrounding regular pork). loins are small though, and you may luck out
@doc. you want different salts for dry curing. just don't want you subbing pink salts, if that's what you meant. nitrates, not nitrite. look for the #2 cure.
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follow up:
for this kind of curing, botulism isn't really the concern. the nitrite here is ultimately for the firmness, pink color, and piquancy (the 'hamminess', in a word). if you cold smoked this for a few hours, i guess there's some amount of botulism theoretically possible. but for all practical purposes, no botulism here. certainly not in the meat. and on the exterior it'd be in oxygen. dried sausages are where the chief botulism concern kicks in.
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Yes....the pink salt really changes the texture of the loin.....firms it up quite a bit. It also gives it the hammy taste that salt alone will not do.
I usually do a dry brine on my canadian bacon. I let it brine, depending on weight and thickness of the meat, for almost a week before smoking. I will also rub some real maple syrup on the loins right before they hit the smoker.
One other thing I do before smoking is to cut one slice and fry it up and check for saltiness. If it's too salty, you can soak in cold water for a few hours, changing the water every half hour or so. It will pull some of the salt out.
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@doc. you want different salts for dry curing. just don't want you subbing pink salts, if that's what you meant. nitrates, not nitrite. look for the #2 cure.
I've gotten both types. After a slow start I believe I am understanding the process now, and it is a great book for guideance.
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dry cure is patience rewarded. that also firms things a good bit. @alebrewer: i never did the canadian bacon (loin) as a dry cure. i might give it a shot. what i like about the pickle is that it preserves a good bit of moisture and as that stuff can easily be overcooked, i appreciate the cheat i get with the brine of sorts.
it's like store bought bacon (belly bacon). that stuff is injected with brine and cures quickly, on the way to the store. but the dry-cured bacon in 'Charcuterie' is a nice firmer contrast. when you dry cure, you remove some water. i like that in belly bacon (it doesn't shrink or spit in the pan, when frying like store-bought/pickled belly does). but haven't tried it in loin bacon.
will give it a shot.
that said, if i had only one thing, ok, two, to make from ruhlman;'s book. it'd be the pancetta and bresaola. and the bratwurst. and the country ham. and i guess the prosciutto. duck i mean. ok, the pork prosciutto too. and the city ham. damn, it's a great book. i know they didn't invent curing, but ruhlman and polcyn made it easy for idiots like me.
loin bacon is a great start. the meat is CHEAP, the time is short, the flavor pronounced (i doubl up on garlic), and the reward is high. it's an excellent intro to curing
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I haven't tried a wet brine on the loin bacon only for a lack of fridge space. And I know if I buy another fridge, I'll end up turning it into a temp controlled beer fermenting fridge.
With the loin bacon, I am careful when reheating it to not dry it out. I would like to try a wet cure and see how different the two methods are.
It is a great book. I have tried many things from it....still need more time to try many more. We were in a great pub in St. Paul last year, when my wife spotted a charcuterie plate on the menu. She was very excited cause she knew what it was. And it was good....so good in fact, we ordered another one!
I'm hoping his next book will be just as good. I've pre-ordered two of them. One for me, and one for a friend who's always talking about cured italian meats.
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i buy a whole loin, and cut it in three after trimming. they fit in a large pot (like for boiling pasta) along with the brine. not too much room is taken up, but i'll admit it is in my basement fridge.
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I think I'm going to brine the loin for an extra couple of days once I add the pink salt. Not too worried about the sodium chloride saturating and taking up "spots" for the pink salt - salt is very mobile and it wants to reach equilibrium, through osmosis and ion exchange (at least, that's what I vaguely remember from inorganic chemistry in college). Extra time is needed however, and I don't think the extra couple of days of soaking will hurt - like Stike said, they soaked pork for weeks in France.
Anyway, thanks for the advice guys! I'm already planning on making either a corned beef or pastrami.
I'll snap some pictures and, at worse, this is a learning experience of what not to do. So far I spent more money on the pink salt (Prague #1) than the pork.
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I usually cut a whole loin in half, and do the dry cure in a zip-lock bag, turning it once/day. If it only takes three days for the wet, I'll see if I cant make something work. I need to make some soon....the wife was just bugging me about it.
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prague powder is very cheap, here:
Butcher-Packer Curing Supplies
I don't think the salt will take up spots of the nitrite. just that the osmosis may have for the most part stopped, and the little salt added with the nitrite won't be enough to make its way to the middle as quickly as when the difference is so much greater
but i have left the stuff curing longer, and saw no increase in saltiness, so you can probably coast a day or two extra to give the nitrite as much time to do its thing as possible.
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That is cheap. I'll have to keep them in mind when I need some supplies to dilute down the shipping.
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That's where I get all my sausage making supplies from.
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dry cure is patience rewarded. that also firms things a good bit. @alebrewer: i never did the canadian bacon (loin) as a dry cure. i might give it a shot. what i like about the pickle is that it preserves a good bit of moisture and as that stuff can easily be overcooked, i appreciate the cheat i get with the brine of sorts.
And the pig face! That was the shizznet
it's like store bought bacon (belly bacon). that stuff is injected with brine and cures quickly, on the way to the store. but the dry-cured bacon in 'Charcuterie' is a nice firmer contrast. when you dry cure, you remove some water. i like that in belly bacon (it doesn't shrink or spit in the pan, when frying like store-bought/pickled belly does). but haven't tried it in loin bacon.
will give it a shot.
that said, if i had only one thing, ok, two, to make from ruhlman;'s book. it'd be the pancetta and bresaola. and the bratwurst. and the country ham. and i guess the prosciutto. duck i mean. ok, the pork prosciutto too. and the city ham. damn, it's a great book. i know they didn't invent curing, but ruhlman and polcyn made it easy for idiots like me.
loin bacon is a great start. the meat is CHEAP, the time is short, the flavor pronounced (i doubl up on garlic), and the reward is high. it's an excellent intro to curing
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forgot the pigface. that's mailable, too.
still have some left.
carbonara for dinner maybe
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That was so good. Everyone should have an Italian
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Huh, just looked in my book and it is 48 hours brine. I think I will try leaving it in the brine longer and see what happens.
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