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ribs - how many and how to transport?
eggzlot
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Got two questions re: my weekend rib cook:
1) I am cooking for about 5-8 adults, will have sides of baked beans and mac n cheese. The only main dish are the St Louis Spares I am making, should I go for 2 or 4 racks? The racks I have are cryo'd in 2 packs, so I'll likely make 2 or 4, I am thinking 4 to be safe?
2) Transportation - Ribs are not being eaten at my house. I have about a 30 minute car ride. I plan on doing 3-1.5-1 for cook time (first time doing St Louis spares, usually I do baby backs at 3-1-1-). Once they are done, can I just double wrap in HDAF, place in a cooler like butts with towels, and transport them? I likely have access to an oven where I am going if I need to reheat on a low temp setting?
thanks in advance.
Got two questions re: my weekend rib cook:
1) I am cooking for about 5-8 adults, will have sides of baked beans and mac n cheese. The only main dish are the St Louis Spares I am making, should I go for 2 or 4 racks? The racks I have are cryo'd in 2 packs, so I'll likely make 2 or 4, I am thinking 4 to be safe?
2) Transportation - Ribs are not being eaten at my house. I have about a 30 minute car ride. I plan on doing 3-1.5-1 for cook time (first time doing St Louis spares, usually I do baby backs at 3-1-1-). Once they are done, can I just double wrap in HDAF, place in a cooler like butts with towels, and transport them? I likely have access to an oven where I am going if I need to reheat on a low temp setting?
thanks in advance.
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Regarding the transport side...
When you ribs are done wrap tightly in heavy duty aluminum foil. Take a blanked or a lot of towels and again wrap tightly, there was no need or a cooler.
I have kept ribs hot for 2 hours with this method.
I went to a fabric store and picked up some heavy fleece (stadium blanket material). My cut was 52" wide bias to bias and I picked up 2 yards. After foiling the meat and keeping the seam of the foil up, I fold the material in half then wrap the meat, ribs, chicken, butt, brisket and leave it on the counter or transport. Works fantastic.
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excellent - thanks for the heads up. Was not sure if foiling them would make them too soft or something.
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I made 2 racks of St. Louis cut spares as an appetizer for our 5-person wine group a few weeks ago and they were all gone. So if the ribs are the main course for 8 people I'd sure do 4 racks, but if there's a lot of other food and only 5 people, two racks should be fine.
Mine took just over 5 hrs at 225 indirect with no foil step but mopping with apple juice every half hour starting at 3 hrs. Went great with Poulsard.
Cheers,
T. -
the 225 temp - dome or at the level of where you were cooking?
I have yet to do spares, so just looking at the various methods others use.
I was happy with 3-1-1 with an hour of foiling for baby backs. these are not huge st louis spares, but still bigger than the baby backs so I thought maybe an extra 30-40 mins or so in the foil. -
225 was my grid temp. That's about 260-270 on my dome. I put a drip pan of water on the plate setter below the cooking grate, and that acts as a heat sink to keep the cooking grate a bit cooler.
I've never done the foil thing, but I'll try that sometime. I like a tender rib, but not soft like I'd expect with a braising step. Mostly though, the foil adds another step and I've had great success without it and see no reason to change. Plus, I enjoy looking at the ribs when I mop them every half hour or so. I've always liked to play with my food.
I'm no rib expert, but I think you'll do just fine with your plan.
T. -
Your pan of water only cools the grate until the water comes up to temp. With the moisture-retention properties of the Egg, you are really just steaming those ribs!
Try them without liquid in the pan. The Egg doesn't need water pans, soaked wood chips, etc. That's one of the exceptional features/advantages over other smokers.
Baby backs (2 racks) done on Memorial Day. Foil on platesetter without a drip pan. 225 dome temp to start, increased temp in increments with apple juice/apple cider vinegar spritzng every hour. Foiled after 3 hours in apple juice/butter. On at 275 for about 40 minutes, then back on for 15-20 minutes without foil. Wife said best ribs she's ever had!
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Thanks for the advice; I'll try a dry drip pan next time. My thinking was that the pan of water would put an insulator between the radiant heat from the plate setter, which is being heated by the fire below, so that the heat from the bottom wouldn't be more than the heat from the sides and top. And I did think about the steaming issue, but it never looks or feels like that's happening. Maybe it's because I've had the fire so low that it really doesn't drive much steam.
So if I try the foil wrap, doesn't that steam/braise the ribs even more since it's all held in the foil? It just seems like it would, but I know a lot of people swear by that technique so there must be something to it.
Anyway, thanks again for the advice. I'm looking forward to experimenting with this a bit.
Cheers,
T. -
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I've done some tests using platesetter, pans, pans w. water or sand. An empty pan works just fine as a radiant heat block when cooking ribs. Unlike the platesetter, it doesn't need pre-heating, and does not get as hot as the 'setter, which heats to over 400F. The pan needs no liquids unless the drippings begin to burn.
I stopped foiling a couple of years ago. Foiling can reduce the amount of cooking time, but unless you want to infuse the meat w. a warm sweet solution, there is little advantage. I've raised my average dome temp to around 275F. It shaves some time off, and I don't notice any difference in the final product.
I used to be able to put away a whole slab without much trouble, even w. sides. Now, a half slab is sufficient w. just a few mouthfuls of sides. I think 4 slabs would be a min. for 8 eaters.
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With St. Louis, I'm guessing you might have leftovers if some of the guests are women. With baby backs, I always have plenty of leftovers with two VERY hearty eaters and one not so and two racks.*******Owner of a large and a beloved mini in Philadelphia
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Best thing about ribs is how many different ways there are to get them perfect. I use foil, it gives me that "fall off the bone" finish, your mileage may vary. A few famous St. Louis BBQ joints seem to agree.I like your idea of using a cooler, I keep one next to the egg to keep bugs off the meat while I finish off the veggies or dessert. It takes some time to remove the plate setter, heat up for direct grilling of the balance of dinner. Keeps everything warm between the patio and the table. You can see it here on the right, as well as the shop vac I use to clean the ash out.
I don't add water to my drip pan or wood, smoking for me is a dry process. The drip pan is only to protect the plate setter.Indianapolis, IN
BBQ is a celebration of culture in America. It is the closest thing we have to the wines and cheeses of Europe.
Drive a few hundred miles in any direction, and the experience changes dramatically.
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