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How do I reduce the smoke flavor

NC Egg Man
NC Egg Man Posts: 22
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
Have a large BGE which I have been cooking on for 2 years now. Occasionally, like tonight the smoke flavor gets real strong.

Did chicken breasts @ 375 for 10 min per side to 165. Bottom vent fully open, controlled temp with top vent.

Nice and moist but wife said the smoke flavor was too strong to enjoy.

I do need to replace the gasket. Could this be the cause. Any suggestions?

Comments

  • Fluffyb
    Fluffyb Posts: 1,815
    Maybe you didn't let the fire burn clean before putting the chicken on? I usually let it burn for about 45 minutes for chicken, since it absorbes smoke more than other meats.
  • I was using BGE lump

    Soo, it sounds as maybe I need to let it stabilize longer
  • tjl5709
    tjl5709 Posts: 76
    Have you ever done a clean burn?
  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 26,455
    BINGO! Recently I swear I saved a marriage with the same diagnosis - well maybe not the marriage, but the guy's wife had had it with smokey food and wanted him to sell his pride and joy! After I figured out the problem they are love bugs and BOTH enjoying their BGE cooked foods!
    Re-gasketing the USA one yard at a time 
  • Clean burn as in fire it up to ~ 600 + with no food?
  • Ok, sounds like I will do a clean burn ... real hot with no food. Then going forward I will make it a point to stabilize it for 30 - 45 minutes before cooking.

    Thanks everyone
  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 28,817
    NC Egg Man,

    Some lump brands are really smokey. I have been using a lot of Dragon's Breath lately and find it produces very smoky tasting food. Poultry will absorb a lot of smoke flavour at the best of times.

    Steve

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • EGGARY
    EGGARY Posts: 1,222
    Are you cooking the chicken direct or indirect ?
    If it is direct, the fat coming off the chicken will give you the awful smoke.

    You might want to try INDIRECT.
  • EGGARY
    EGGARY Posts: 1,222
    Are you cooking the chicken direct or indirect ?
    If it is direct, the fat coming off the chicken will give you the awful smoke.

    You might want to try INDIRECT.
  • Let stabilize for 45 minutes and do your bird indirect.
  • WokOnMedium
    WokOnMedium Posts: 1,376
    My first thought goes with the skin or fat available to drip onto your fire. If your cooking direct, the drippings hitting the fire can get a smoke going that can cause issues for the delicate pallet. If there was not skin or fat it comes down to the clean burn or the length of time you allow for your fire to stabilize. Good luck!
  • PhilsGrill
    PhilsGrill Posts: 2,256
    Never control the temperature with the top vent, always control from the bottom vent. The top controls the the amount to smoke in the egg (and fine tunes the temperature), as you have found this out. Leave the top off so all the smoke goes out quickly and control the temperature with the bottom like always.
  • BING BING BING!

    Phil hits the nail on the head!
    I only use the daisy for cooks below 350. I control the temp with the lower draft door only.

    some very good points have been raised in this thread:

    chicken is very susceptible to smoke (a little goes a long way)

    make sure your coals are burning clean (no smoke) before putting food on.

    Fat dripping on the coals will create an acrid smoke. Firestarters that haven't burned up completely will smolder and give off acrid smoke throughout the cook too.

    I always cook chicken direct on a raised grid. I think your best shot at minimizing (not eliminating) the smoke flavor is to go indirect with a drip pan to catch drippings. Everything you cook will have some kind of smokiness to the flavor. the trick is finding the right balance.
  • stike
    stike Posts: 15,597
    but you can't let more air (smoke) out than is coming in anyway.

    example. i am cruising at 350. but i think i have too much smoke. if i open the daisy or take it off, and more smoke starts coming out, then more air must be coming in, and the temperature must rise.

    if i take the daisy off, and the temp doesn't change, then the rate of the air into (and out of) the egg hasn't changed. which means the smoke isn't moving out any faster.

    if i turn the tap down so the water coming into the hose is at a trickle, i can't make the water come out any faster by taking the nozzle off the end of the hose
    ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,583
    there could be more too it, just dont know. :laugh: controlling from the bottom you may have a smaller fire thats able to breath, controlling from the top you may have a larger fire thats being snuffed, more smoldering. also wonder about humidity or moisture being greater if the fire is controlled from the top, wetter sweating meat may stick a wetter more humid smoke to it
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • stike
    stike Posts: 15,597
    if a fire is stable, it's not being held to temp by being snuffed (choked).

    i agree though, if you are talking about the few moments before and after adjusting a vent, yeah, i can keep the smoke in or let it out. but i'm simply talking about an egg cruising at temperature.

    you can't have an egg that's been at 250 for three hours, and smoking along the whole time, suddenly vent all that smoke FASTER (taking the daisy off), without make-up air coming in and the fire growing
    ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,583
    i just dont know, like i said :laugh: i can have a wide spread stable fire or a small concentrated stable fire and hold the same temps. what it does to the smoke concentration im not sure, the flow is the same but maybe the smoke is darker with the daisy governing verse the lower vent, no daisy and maybe theres more unburnt oxygen making it past and around the fire, just not sure, no one here ever analyzed the smoke content, just assumed it was just like water
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • stike
    stike Posts: 15,597
    well, given that no one's analyzed it, i guess my answer is just as correct as any other
    ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante
  • PhilsGrill
    PhilsGrill Posts: 2,256
    But smoke never comes in the egg, it always goes out of the egg. Smoke is created inside the egg, but it never comes in the bottom draft door, therefore it always goes out. The faster it exits the less smokey flavor you have.
  • Ripnem
    Ripnem Posts: 5,511
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    "Smoke never comes in the egg. It always goes out of the egg. Smoke is created inside the egg, but it never comes in the bottom draft door, therefore it always goes out."
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,583
    im just surprised no one here HAS analyzed it yet :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • stike
    stike Posts: 15,597
    smoke doesn't enter the egg, correct.

    air comes in, some of it is combusted, and then it goes out, carrying smoke. the faster the exhaust is moving, the faster the air is coming in. if air exits faster, air will need to come in at the same rate to make up for it. that air will have more oxygen, and the fire can only grow.

    you cannot let out exhaust faster than it comes in. not for any extended stable period, i mean. of course i can shut an egg going along at 750, and snuff it. i can also open an egg wide which was previously clamped at 200. but those moves will change the temp.

    my point is if you are at 250, and were at 250 for an hour before, and want to be at 250 for another hour afterward, you cannot let out more exhaust than was previously coming out without causing more to come in. and if more comes in, the temp will go up.
    ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante
  • Pork Butt Mike
    Pork Butt Mike Posts: 2,584
    Adam Thank You, common sense.
  • my thinking is that when controlling the temperature by choking down the exhaust, you are creating an environment where smoke can linger longer with the food.

    not trying to prove it scientifically, just saying that's what I do. As you know, there's no one in my household that thinks smoke improves the flavor of anything, so I always do whatever I can to minimize smoke.

    I could be doing it wrong because wife still doesn't like anything off the Egg. :lol:
  • stike
    stike Posts: 15,597
    i agree entirely with you. choking the egg down DOES trap the smoke with the egg. but that is a short-term thing, and ultimately it will even out and also lower the temperature.

    the "trapped smoke" (as well as letting it out faster) is short term. if the temp is stable, no smoke is being trapped (or let out faster)

    anyway...
    off to bang my head against the wall
    ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante