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Pizza Lab Testing Dough & Peel (long & pic heavy)

Judy Mayberry
Judy Mayberry Posts: 2,015
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
I don't know if it's bad form to post so many photos, but this is a lab report, after all. If you get worn out looking, let me know! (And I'm sure some smarty-pants out there will do just that! B) )

I planned an afternoon with a helper to practice new dough, getting and holding high temps in the Eggs, and using a new metal perforated peel. The 100% Caputo 00 dough had been chilling for three days, and I had crumbled pre-cooked Italian sausage, chopped onions, Kalamata olives, de-greased pepperoni slices, and very dry fresh mozzarella ready for topping.

I used both the Small and Large Eggs. The Small was set full up with lump all the way up to the top of the fire ring, plate setter legs up, raised grid nested inside the plate setter, 10" stone on the grid--nice and high in the dome. I used halved Weber fire starter cubes nestled in the lump in both Eggs.

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The Large was standard lump to fire ring line, adjustable rig, 12" stone on the bottom level, extender on the AR, 14" stone on top. Because I heard the 00 flour takes higher temps, I had both Eggs at 600°. I had to watch for flashback with the Large; it was really roaring. The welder's glove was essential.

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The dough was very easy to work with, but the center got thin VERY fast. I'll try 80/20 with 20% hi-gluten flour next time.

The new GI.METAL perforated peel was WONDERFUL! At first I thought it was nonstick because the dough round slid around so easily on a very light dusting of flour. But if we left it on too long while adding toppings, it did get sticky and we had to lift up edges and sprinkle more flour under it to get it sliding again.

Carolina Q suggested that instead of scooping up the dough round with the peel and THEN adding the toppings, we should top the dough first on the counter, and then scoop up the finished product onto the peel and take it straight to the Egg.

That's what's great about this peel (or perhaps any metal peel? don't know): Think of a snake's tongue darting out, that's how fast the peel scoots under the dough and snags it. There was no flour falling through the holes, no mess on the floor. The metal is rigid but has a springiness to it at the same time, and the 20" handle is great for leverage. I used the corner of it to nudge the pizzas around on the stones during cooking.

Cooking the pizza was just like in a wood-burning oven--we had to watch for hot spots and turn the pie now and then. The stones were perfectly heated after about 45-60 minutes and I used a laser gun to make sure they were at least 500° before putting on the pizzas. The dome thermometers were steady at 600° most of the time...the Small Egg started to go down a little after 1-1/2 hours or so.

Here are some pizzas we made:

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It was interesting to see how much lump was left after the Eggs cooled down. The Large still had plenty of charcoal.

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The Small started full up to the top with fuel and ended up way below the fire ring line. But YAAAAAAY...it DID get over 600° with all that lump, and I thought I would never live to see that day!!!!! Whoever gave me that tip, a million thanks!

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So, Caputo 00 dough was good and gave wonderful bubbled and charred edges, and the perforated peel was a big success. Hey, the pizza tasted good, too. But I'm not hot on fresh mozzarella...imported Fontina is my #1 choice for cheese. Plain old firm supermarket mozzarella is #2.

Judy in 75° and windy San Diego
Judy in San Diego

Comments

  • cookn biker
    cookn biker Posts: 13,407
    Judy what recipe did you use. I will try this method. Pizza's really look great!
    Molly
    Colorado Springs
    "Loney Queen"
    "Respect your fellow human being, treat them fairly, disagree with them honestly, enjoy their friendship, explore your thoughts about one another candidly, work together for a common goal and help one another achieve it."
    Bill Bradley; American hall of fame basketball player, Rhodes scholar, former U.S. Senator from New Jersey
    LBGE, MBGE, SBGE , MiniBGE and a Mini Mini BGE
  • eenie meenie
    eenie meenie Posts: 4,394
    Judy, nice pizza post. :) Great looking pies with a beautiful crust.

    That perforated peel looks huge. What are the dimensions? Did you imply that this peel made it easy to pick the prepared pizza up off the counter with ease? How long was your dough on the counter before scooping it up with the peel?

    One can never post too many pics on this forum. :laugh:
  • FlaPoolman
    FlaPoolman Posts: 11,677
    If you ever need a taste tester for your lab work just let me know ;)
    Pies look great
  • This is the recipe I used:

    http://www.fornobravo.com/pizza/pizza_dough.html

    Let us know how it comes out! I used Tony Gemignani's youtube method of putting the dough in separate containers for the refrigerator. Go to youtube and find his pizza-making videos--they're inspiring. I used Tupperware, he uses 5-cup Glad plastic containers. The dough doesn't double, it's about a 1-1/2 rise. He (and Fred's videos on his website, he took lessons with Tony and does the same thing) shows how to shape the dough round, my downfall. I need a LOT of practice.

    Judy
    Judy in San Diego
  • cookn biker
    cookn biker Posts: 13,407
    Thanks Judy!
    Molly
    Colorado Springs
    "Loney Queen"
    "Respect your fellow human being, treat them fairly, disagree with them honestly, enjoy their friendship, explore your thoughts about one another candidly, work together for a common goal and help one another achieve it."
    Bill Bradley; American hall of fame basketball player, Rhodes scholar, former U.S. Senator from New Jersey
    LBGE, MBGE, SBGE , MiniBGE and a Mini Mini BGE
  • misfit
    misfit Posts: 358
    Mighty fine looking pies. Can't wait for fresh basil and some good tomatoes here.
  • Rebecca:

    The peel is 13" from bottom edge to top, and about 12" across, like many other peels. But the 20" handle is really nice for maneuverability. It comes in wider sizes, I think, but I went for the simplest one with the longer handle. I can't picture myself making a pizza bigger than the 14" stone can take.

    The dough round was on a floured bamboo board for several minutes and then I did the snake-tongue thing to slide it onto the peel. It was Michael who suggested putting the toppings on BEFORE sliding it onto the peel...I didn't do that in this episode, If it'll work that is definitely the way to go. I don't know about you, but every time I've ever lifted a dough round to put it on the peel, it ends up collapsing and folding and it's UGLY. This was such a thrill!
    Judy in San Diego
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Judy's peel is only 13" wide, the same as the wooden one I've been using with my large egg. And "my" suggestion of building the pie on the counter was from this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ae6CGjjLNo&feature=related

    They make it look so easy!!! I gotta get me one of those peels!!!!

    Judy - GREAT looking pies!!! Again! :)

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • 2Fategghead
    2Fategghead Posts: 9,624
    Great post Judy. I like all your pic's. I made pizza today as well. I think you did great. ;)

    You know I would have been skeptical about getting that peel but, you figured it out. again great job. Tim
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Judy Mayberry wrote:
    ...every time I've ever lifted a dough round to put it on the peel, it ends up collapsing and folding and it's UGLY.

    Haha - so what's wrong with a calzone?!

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    AWESOME post.Those pies are "Off the Hook"! :)
  • Michael: You now have the reputation of finding the appropriate pic or link in 0 seconds, THE FASTEST MAN ON EARTH!

    Judy
    Judy in San Diego
  • Gee, Tim, I really appreciate that. That is one of the expensive impulses that DID work out great!

    Judy
    Judy in San Diego
  • Actually, the peel is 13" long from the bottom edge to the top. Across, it is about 12" wide. For the record. It just looks big in the pictures.

    Judy
    Judy in San Diego
  • Nice looking pies there Judy, making me hungry all over again. See soon. :)
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Sorry. Guess I misunderstood. Sure LOOKS bigger!!

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • Mike, is that a Mini in your logo? I'm sure curious about how that works for small everyday meals for one or two. Steak would be really close to the heat so that would work well. What else? Assuming that IS a Mini.

    Judy
    Judy in San Diego
  • Yes Judy it is a Mini on my Logo but I sold that and picked up another small. So at home I have the Lg. and Small and the new small I just got is on the RV. ;)
  • You didn't misunderstand. It's listed as 13 inches, so it wasn't till Rebecca asked that I actually went and measured it.

    The middle section is the widest part, 12-1/2" across, and then it tapers slightly toward the bottom, which is 12" across just above where the bottom corners begin to round. At the bottom the corners are perfectly rounded, so the very bottom edge is much less than 12" across.

    I think that's the secret of why it scoops up the dough so well...the very narrow thin edge starts lifting the dough first and the platform widens as the dough slides higher and higher. What do you think?

    Egad! I think we've got it!
    Judy in San Diego
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
    Judy Mayberry wrote:
    What do you think?

    I think I'm going to order a new peel!! :) Thanks for the lab test, Judy - much appreciated!!

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • elzbth
    elzbth Posts: 2,075
    I, for one, sincerely appreciate this post. I've not yet tried pizza on my small (to be honest, the only time I tried on the large was a complete failure). I have just one question - how do you de-grease the pepperoni slices? I like it, but never have it because of all the grease. :unsure:
  • Put the pepperoni slices between paper towels and microwave for 30 seconds. Don't go too long or they'll be dried out and stiff. Ask me how I know...1 minute was FAR too long.

    Good luck with the pizza. It takes a lot of psyching up to start the first one.If you're alone one is all you're going to make, anyway. You could make two and freeze one for another meal, though.

    You don't have to make your own dough to start with--lots of alternatives. That makes it a lot easier to plan the rest of the project. I suggest having all the toppings right there and ready to apply. In hindsight it's all about being organized, even if you have to force yourself. At least that applies to me!

    Judy
    Judy in San Diego