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1st Mad Max Turkey - Mixed Results (PIC HEAVY)

Hillbilly-Hightech
Hillbilly-Hightech Posts: 966
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
Howdy,

yes, I'm late to the "post your turkey pics" conversations, but FWIW, we didn't even celebrate our Thanksgiving until Saturday, due to schedule conflicts. ;)

At any rate, attached are the pictures. I tried a modified version of Mad Max's method - I modified it by injecting the turkey with a Cajun marinade (didn't taste as good as we'd thought - won't be using that again). :sick:

cajunmarinade.jpg

Also, being lazy, I decided to whip up the butter with the spices pictured in the Kitchen-Aid mixer.


butterpastespices.jpg

That worked out quite nicely, and made a nice, even mixture with the spices and a nice, whipped texture for the butter.

butterpaste.jpg

butterpasteonturkey.jpg

Also, due to other "conflicts" - I took the ice pack off the breast but then didn't get around to putting it onto the Egg until about 2 hours after - so the turkey had been sitting on the counter for about 2 hrs at room temp w/out the ice pack.

I think this led to my first mistake - the breast temp kept reading about 10-15 degrees above the thigh temp. Thus, when my thighs got to 180, the breast was at 195, so that when I finally pulled the turkey, the breast was overcooked. :ohmy:

finishedturkey1.jpg

My next mistake was in NOT putting in enough lump - after about 2 hrs, I couldn't get the Egg to go above 300. I tried stirring the coals, using my own homemade wiggle rod, etc... but nothing helped.

I had put it off as long as I could, but I had to pull the turkey out & add more lump.

This resulted in my next mistake - apparently the plate setter gets quite hot while in the Egg at 300 for 2 hours!!! So hot, in fact, that even using the "as seen on TV" "Ove-glove" didn't help, and I ended up dropping the plate setter. It only cracked on the corner, so it was still (somewhat) usable, but it still cracked, nonetheless. :whistle:

Another mistake I made was in the mashed potatoes. I tried the "twice-baked" style, making them once the traditional way, then reheating them 24 hrs later on a cedar plank in the Egg.

As can be seen in the pic, they didn't quite turn out like the pics of other people's attempts I've seen - mine didn't have the nice crust on the outside - they just melted & gooped over the sides of the plank. I think this was because I put way too much cheese in the taters (GF said she likes a lot of cheese, so I happily obliged). :silly:

taters1.jpg

The highlight, however, was the gravy - I followed Mad Max's instructions for the gravy, except I didn't chop up the "spare part" meats (the neck & the entrails). But I did use them for making the stock. I modified that as well - rather than put that stuff in a pot on the stove, I put all that stuff in a slow cooker (crock-pot) & let it do it's thing. It seemed to work out nicely.

I also didn't scrape out very much of the "black crud" from the drip pan, as it was pretty well caked on there, but the little bit I did get, along w/ the juices from the turkey, as well as the stock, seemed to provide a very good, flavorful gravy. :woohoo:

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So, lessons learned would be:

1.) Ensure you have PLENTY of lump to last the whole cook
2.) NEVER try to pick up a scorching plate setter!!!
3.) KEEP the ice pack on the breast, and if you think you're gonna put the turkey in at a certain time but do not, then put the ice pack back ON until you're ready!!
4.) Don't use so much cheese for the mashed taters (and, quite possibly - let them cook longer on the Egg to develop that light crust).

If any of you gurus can provide any more insight as to what happened, please let me know. FWIW, everything was still edible & good, it just wasn't "magical" like I was expecting...

plated.jpg

thanks, (and a SPECIAL thanks to Mad Max)!!!! :)
Rob
Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup... Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. - Bruce Lee

Comments

  • stike
    stike Posts: 15,597
    i don't understand what went wrong, i mean, you followed max's method to the letter...

    :blink:

    if i can offer one thought, i think the cajun injection and the 'abundance' of rubs in the butter would lead to a confusion of flavors.... simplify simplify simplify
    ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante
  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    Like Stike said...K.I.S.S.(Keep it simple son) ;) Next time if you are He$$ Bent on doin MM turkey,do it by the book,then tweak to your taste after tryin a "by the book"one.Just my thoughts.I have tried his method before and it was good,then I tweaked it to fit our tastes. ;)
  • loco_engr
    loco_engr Posts: 5,834
    Thanks for being a real human being.
    aka marysvilleksegghead
    Lrg 2008
    mini 2009

    Henny Youngman:
    I said to my wife, 'Where do you want to go for our anniversary?' She said, 'I want to go somewhere I've never been before.' I said, 'Try the kitchen.'
    Bob Hope: When I wake up in the morning, I don’t feel anything until noon, and then it’s time for my nap
  • Stike & Hoss - I agree - What happened is that when I looked in the cupboard to see what spices I had for the rubs, that's when I saw the "old" spices (the Emeril & the Prudhomme spices). I hadn't used them since I started buying the Dizzy Pig stuff, but I figured "why not, it says "for poultry" on it, so it should be good!!" ;)

    But I think that it was the case of "too much being the enemy of good enough" cuz maybe it was a bit much on the spices.

    Though, I will say that the turkey itself tasted pretty good (aside from that marinade - for those wondering, it had a "sour" flavor to it, not something that enhanced the flavor of the turkey - although it did say on the bottle that it was for "chicken, turkey, beef, or pork") :blush:

    At any rate, we won't be using that one any more, especially on turkey. It may taste good on other things, but not turkey. We actually got it when we went to New Orleans, so I think it's a very regional / local brand. :blink:

    Also, being as I had the 2 temperature differences going on - what can one do in the future? Would you guys recommend cutting the turkey into parts (breast part, then wing / thigh / leg parts)? Or is ensuring that ya put the ice pack on the only true remedy for the temp variance problem??

    And Hoss - you said if I'm "he$$ bent" on doing it that way - no, not really - but it seemed that was the most popular way from readin the forums, and seemed to yield the best results - why, do you do something different? Do you spatchcock it?

    I will reiterate the gravy did not disappoint - it was VERY flavorful, and complemented the stuffing & taters quite well!!

    BTW, I heated the potatoes for about 15-20 min @ about 400 - If I would have left them in there longer, do you guys think they would have "firmed" up any & created the crust - or do you think it was a lost cause because of all the cheese??

    Anyway, thanks for the replies - this was definitely a learning experience...
    Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup... Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. - Bruce Lee
  • loco - real human being? Why, did you think I was a robot?? :laugh:

    :P :woohoo:
    Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup... Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. - Bruce Lee
  • Hoss
    Hoss Posts: 14,600
    It is a good starting point.Do one "by the book","to the letter"Max has stated it is a foundation,not written in stone.Turkeys are cheap and a good cook to expriment with.If you don't like the wine or the particular herbs he does,eliminate or substitute the things your family likes.Like I said,I did one "by the book" a couple of years ago and it was good.I just took Max's foundation and tweaked it to fit the tastes of my family.It is a great method. :)
  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    Thanks for sharing- it sounds like it was an exciting cook :).

    For the temp difference- I think you answered your own question in your original post. If it sat for two hours at room temp after icing the breast, then the meat equalized. You want to get the bird to the grill asap after removing the ice pack. Have your butter paste ready to go, remove pack, rub bird, pour wine, place in egg.

    The ice pack is just one trick. You could also consider spatchcocking the bird or using a vertical roaster. Of course, removing the legs and thighs is a "sure fire" cure :).


    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg.