I'm suggesting a "What's in Your Kitchen" Forum

Focker

Refuse to play with polytetrafluoroethylene, didn't get my teflon flu shot.  Pans get hot quickly, and omit some nasty sh!t.  If you cannot get fond=flavor, or have to use special utensils for fear of compromising the pan's finish and your health; what exactly is the advantage with so many other viable options that you mention?  Low fat diets perhaps, or adding teflon flakes to the diet??? 

“In new tests conducted by a university food safety professor, a generic non-stick frying pan preheated on a conventional, electric stovetop burner reached 736 degrees F in three minutes and 20 seconds, with temperatures still rising when the tests were terminated. A Teflon pan reached 721 degrees F in just five minutes under the same test conditions (See Figure 1), as measured by a commercially available infrared thermometer. DuPont studies show that the Teflon offgases toxic particulates at 446 degrees F. At 680 degrees F Teflon pans release at least six toxic gases, including two carcinogens, two global pollutants, and MFA, a chemical lethal to humans at low doses. At temperatures that DuPont scientists claim are reached on stovetop drip pans (1000 F), non-stick coatings break down to a chemical warfare agent known as PFIB, and a chemical analog of the WWII nerve gas phosgene.“

nolaegghead

Brandon, I completely agree with that assessment.   I only use teflon for eggs, and I cook them at a relatively low heat compared to the limits of the material.  

I think I was fair listing the advantages and disadvantages of teflon.  You expounded on the disadvantages.  I also think I have the self restraint to not overheat it. 

For fun yesterday, I listed a host of dangerous byproducts of wood combustion just to illustrate how having a fear of fiberglass (Rutland gasket) is silly to focus on when you're basically bathing your food in a who's who list of toxic gases on the egg.

I like to think that I am informed enough to not live terrified by everything around me that's dangerous, yet not stupid enough to actually poison myself.

Like I don't believe the dangerous misinformation that keeps parents from not immunizing their children (because they think they could get autism) which results in many real people getting sick and dying.  Seriously, how many die from teflon poisoning?  I've never heard of one.  Maybe its contributing to cancer or other illness, but hopefully the pans that generate the deadly dose at least self destruct and stick afterwards.

Focker

There are some cancer clusters and birth defects from factory workers at Dupont where these kitchen products have been manufactured.  With the majority of PFOA/C-8 getting released not during the manufacturing process, but from use.  

10 beers in bud, just having some late night forum fun. lol

nolaegghead

Me too man!

nolaegghead

PFOA is like BPA in that it's everywhere.  BPA has been banned in Europe - why not here?  Because douche-bag chemical company lobbyists.

from wiki: "How general populations are exposed to PFOA is not completely understood. PFOA has been detected in industrial waste, stain resistant carpets, carpet cleaning liquids, house dust, microwave popcorn bags, water, food, some cookware and PTFE such as Teflon."

Lots of dangerous stuff everywhere.  The new car smell that everyone loves?  Out-gassing from all kinds of manufacturing processes and materials.

edit: hahah...just saw this on a deals woot link:

http://www.cooking.com/tattoo-wings-10-in-nonstick-fry-pan-by-guy-fieri_408931_11/

Focker

Tempting,

But I'm holding out for the "winged" Flowmaster from Flavortown!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I_l7xVuMPP4

 

jls9595

hayhonker said:

guess this never went anywhere. lol!

Almost 3 years between the OP and the second post in this thread. That strikes me as both awesome and hilarious. I love this forum. On most other boards the op would have been lost forever in the bowels of the internet.

nolaegghead

@jls9595 - I noticed that too.   And it reminds me of a tweet I saw today - actually a news article about a tweet.

A little more than five years ago, a Twitter user with the "Rocky Horror"-inspired name @DrFNFurter unremarkably tweeted the following lyrics to one of that film's signature songs:

So, come up to the lab,

— Frank Furter (@DrFNFurter) May 8, 2009

and see what's on the slab!

— Frank Furter (@DrFNFurter) May 8, 2009

I see you shiver with antici ...

— Frank Furter (@DrFNFurter) May 8, 2009

And then? And then...

Waiiit for it.

 

Waiiiit for it. (2010)

 

Waiiiiit for it. (2011)

 

Waiiiiiit for it. (2012)

 

Waiiiiiiiit for it (2013)

... pation.

— Frank Furter (@DrFNFurter) May 8, 2014

jls9595

Nola I just spit my drink )  That is amazing. I had to go find that account and follow just out of respect.

tksmoke

I am not worthy!!!  Nice inventory @Focker!!!  Several years ago, when the GFU and I set up our cohabitation, I purchased a bunch of Calphalon One pieces, which have served us very well.  They cook well, and clean up even better.  The problem is that they need to be treated with respect, otherwise the coating will scratch.  I hate to let anyone use them.  If I were to replace them, I'd go with something that could stand some abuse.  It's sort of like buying a fancy car, and worrying about where to park it out of harms way.  Takes some of the pleasure out of driving it.

Same story with nice knives.  I've recently sharpened up some very old Chicago Cutlery knives, and I encourage others to use those.  Hopefully the Shuns will be saved from being thrown in the sink, or stuck in the dishwasher.

fishlessman

Focker said:

Frigedaire wall oven for holding 8.5", 12", and 14" pizza stones, along with  the 16" Baking Steel, and 14" x 14" stone Mario Batali Piastra

Samsung french door fridge

A ridiculous amount of CI pans, favorite being a Wagner 12" chef's skillet

Viking 7 ply SS 3.5qt saucier

Vintage Le Creuset Enamel CI DO size 24

Vintage Le Creuset Enamel CI sauce pan with spout size 22

Lodge 6qt enamel CI DO

2 Lodge CI #12 DOs

Lodge 5qt DO Double Dutch Oven

Lodge skillet for blackening, high heat searing

Shun Classic SS 10" chefs, 9" slicer, 9" bread, 9" carving, 6" chefs, 2 4" angled paring, tourne, and 4 piece steak knife set.

Apex sharpening system with Chocera stones

SS Cocktail shaker

Japanese Benriner Mandolin

Griswold #8 Waffle Iron

Grisold large logo epu #s 10,8,6,5 and 2 3s

#16 Griswold large slant logo with bail

Vitamix 5200 with both 64 and 32 oz containers

KA Pro 600 Copper Pearl with meat grinder attachment and pasta roller set

KA food processor

Foodsaver

Roaster oven

3 crock pots

10 Qt Food Network 4 in 1 stock pot

Emeril CI 4 in 1 cooker 

Nesco American Harvest Dehydrator

Encore burr grinder

Chefs Choice electric kettle

Frieling #0104 french press

Pelican 35qt cooler that stays in the kitchen

14" wood and metal peels

16" wood and metal peels

12" hand hammered pao wok

16" hand hammered wok

Oxo salad spinner

Custom 3" Ozark West black walnut butcher block

Haeger stone deep dish pie pan

2 Hartstone Pottery  loaf pans

2 Pampered Chef muffin pans

Pampered Chef bundt pan ($5 at antique store)

Hobart 12" #512 meat slicer from the 70s

Gen 4 16gb iPod and Auvio speaker box

I'm sure there is more, but that pretty much covers it. hahaha

 

 

i would have to make my house the kitchen and live in a tent in the back yard for all that stuff