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large egg head
large egg head Posts: 16
edited November -1 in EggHead Forum
Hi All,

My new egg arrives on Wednesday & I can't wait. Although I am a little nervous on how to get started. Any help would be great!

Thanks
;O)

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  • AZRP
    AZRP Posts: 10,116
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    Watch the DVD that comes with it, then when you have questions, ask here. Welcome aboard! -RP
  • Bacchus
    Bacchus Posts: 6,019
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    Nothing to be nervous about, you will be fine.

    You should keep your first several cooks lower than 350-400 degrees to season your gasket.
  • Celtic Wolf
    Celtic Wolf Posts: 9,773
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    Go to store Buy Meat and Beer
    Go to another store and buy lump and more beer.
    Put egg together if not already.
    Fill with lump..
    Drink Beer
    Light fire and let smoke clear
    Drink Beer
    Cook Meat!!
    Drink Mo' Beer!!

    Welcome to the family!!
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,776
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    im with celtic, go get some beer. i would lite it and get the temp up to 200, then shut the lower vent down to about an eight of an inch, drink a beer and watch what happens, then open it about a half inch and drink a beer and see what happens. keep gradually opening it and when you get up to about 350/400 drop some burgers on. you dont even need to use the daisy wheel for this, just learn temp control and it will help with your next few cooks. for many of us, its good to know how to control the temps while drinking beverages, and im betting a few have never lit an egg with out one
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Smokin' Wolverine
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    I agree with Celtic Wolf and Fishless, start out with something simple like sausage, hamburgers or chicken breasts, play with the temperature don't forget to get a clean burn first though......oh yeah lots of beer is very emportant it seemed to work for us Canadians on the weekend.
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
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    What's your background? Used a gasser before, or charcoal? Do much BBQ? If you are even casually acquainted with using briquettes in metal cookers, the Egg will be quite simple. Like the others have said, just play with the vents for awhile to see how to control the temperature. One thing to note is that if you are cooking "direct," that is, with the food in direct line of sight of the burning coals, the dome temperature is somewhat misleading because the amount of IR the food is likely to get will have a stronger effect than the ambient temp in the Egg.

    You'll find the Egg is a great toy for grown-ups.
  • large egg head
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    I guess it's not knowing what temps to use on which foods. Trial & error I guess!!
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
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    large egg,

    Congratulations and welcome.

    When I first got my egg I was nervous about everything. There is no magic in all this and nothing to intimidate you. The egg is not some delicate tool. Like anything of value if you take a little care it will last you longer than the lifetime warranty BGE gives you.

    As AZRP said watch the video and read the manual.

    Start getting ahead of the beer drinking today.

    Don't be worried, just have fun and ask questions here if and when you need help.

    My only suggestion is get a good instant read thermometer. The best is the Thermoworks Thermopen. It is well worth the cost and will help your food taste better.


    Here is a link to some great (but not all) help, tips for the egg.

    http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=481405&catid=1

    GG
  • Grandpas Grub
    Grandpas Grub Posts: 14,226
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    If you want to cook something first step would be to type whatever it is you want to cook type that in the search screen.

    You will come up with hundreds of hits.

    Search the recipe section here on the forum and or go to some of the sites in the link post I sent to you below.

    Ask questions. When folks say temperatures unless specifically stated 'grate' then the the temperature refers to the dome temp.

    In general the dome temp. will be about 30° than the grate temp. You will get used to all this in time.

    GG
  • large egg head
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    Thanks to everyone for there comment & notes! I feel somewhat better about giving this a try. Coming from using gas to this, is a new adventure!
  • Hot Stuff
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    Have you gotten the beer yet? Well, go ahead and get that (it's the most important thing) and then click on the link below while your waiting on your "egg" to get there. Click on burgers, etc. and watch the vidios provided and you'll learn alot about cooking various things on the egg. Also, search everything else at the BGE website and you'll find the answers to many of your questions. Welcome and good luck.

    http://www.biggreenegg.com/videos/videos.html

    actually i just tried the link and "desserts" was the only vidio i could get to play.....maybe my computer
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
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    Starting lump isn't very hard, altho a bit more work than gas. You may want to try several different methods, such as starter cubes, charcoal chimneys, injections of alcohol, and (my favorite) MAPP gas thru a weed burner. Find the way that suits you best.

    The keys are don't fuss too much, and be patient.
  • jeffinsgf
    jeffinsgf Posts: 1,259
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    Just to make sure you fully understand the situation, a glass of wine can be substituted for all previous mentions of beer. :woohoo:
  • Bama Chad
    Bama Chad Posts: 154
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    Of course you have to be 21 to buy the beer, very important..do not attempt if not 21...

    otherwise you should be good to go :laugh:
  • [Deleted User]
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    I too converted from gas a little over 2 years ago. I've been cooking out year round 2 to 3 times (or more) per week ever since. I found that my gasser realy didn't cook well as soon as the temp went into the 60's. Now the weather can't keep me from grilling.

    The Egg is quite different than what you're used to, but take your time, you will adjust. I got frustrated because everyone made it sound so simple and I kept screwing things up. In hindsight I tried to do too much too fast and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. There is no one, single correct way to cook anything on the Egg-which makes it hard when that's what you're looking for.

    First big difference - allow yourself a good half-hour for the smoke to clear (literally) before putting the meat on the grill.

    As mentioned above, experiment with temp control. If you have a baseline to start from it will make your life easier. Your temps will vary depending on the type of lump used, if you have a platesetter in and how much space the food takes up (blocking the flow of air). But if you know what temp you want you can adjust for any irregularities. The only time I cook with the Daisywheel on is long slow cooks like ribs, brisket or overnight cooks. Otherwise, I control the temp entirely with the bottom draft door from 250 - 750+. (Stay away from the high heat for awhile, give your gasket a chance to settle in)

    As far as cooking temps go, let us know what you'd like to cook and we can give you temps. which reminds me- keep a "cook book" or log of your cooks so you can look to see how you cooked something last time and whether or not it was any good.

    good luck and have fun!
  • BHE1
    BHE1 Posts: 205
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    First congrats on the new egg!!! You will love it.

    As a fairly new egger myself, I will let you in on the two things you NEED to be worried about:

    1. GAINING weight--everything on the egg tastes much better. I've gained a couple pounds since purchasing my first large egg.

    2. Making an additional egg purchase. I started with a large and within 3 months have already purchased a medium.

    If you have any questions post them here and they will be answered by some very knowledgeable eggers. Hope you enjoy.
  • Gunnar
    Gunnar Posts: 2,307
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    Here is a temp. guideline posted by Thirdeye. Time is a guideline, trust temps for doness.

    Chicken, sausage links & logs, or country-style ribs (cut from a pork shoulder) are good starters. Whenever possible, cook meat on the bone. Spare ribs take a little more time and effort. A pork butt is a good choice for your first long “low and slow” cook. Turn or rotate your product the minimum number of times for even doneness, even color or if you have a hot spot in your cooker. Keep a close eye on your first few “all night” cooks. Too often the fire dies out in the early stages of the cook and goes unnoticed, resulting in food safety issues. Until you learn your cooker and how meat cooks, don't be too concerned with using "low and slow" pit temps around 200°. They can be hard to hold. Considering an average butt or brisket, a pit temp between 230° and 250° is usually adequate to insure an internal temperature of 140° or higher in the first 4 or 5 hours of your cook. Some cookers are more reliable than others but another good rule is to check your pit temp every 3 or 4 hours, especially on overnight cooks.

    TEMPERATURE GUIDE - The temperature ranges below have worked for me when considering moistness and tenderness of the finished product. The USDA has a different range of temperatures they recommend for food safety. Click on this link to learn more: USDA

    I tend to bend the rules more often on poultry white meat, ground beef, lamb, steaks and pork loin. You should decide your personal preference for doneness. I would however, suggest the USDA recommended temperatures when serving guests. Remember that most internal temperatures will rise 5° to 10° during the rest period. That being said, here are some guidelines that I use at home:

    CUT
    APPROXIMATE INTERNAL TEMPERATURE
    Brisket.......................... 185°-200°
    Beef Roasts/Steaks ........120°-125° rare 125°-130° medium rare 140°-145° medium
    Beef, ground .................150° - 160°
    Bologna ........................140°
    Chicken ................. 165°-180° thigh, 150° - 155° breast -(juices should run clear)
    Turkey ...................165°-180° thigh, 155° - 165°breast - (juices should run clear)
    Lamb..................................130°-145°
    Pork Butt & Picnic................165°-180° for slicing 185°-200° for pulling
    Pork Loin .............................145°-165°
    Sausage, beef & pork (fresh) .....160°-170°
    Sausage, chicken ................ 165° - 170°
    Salmon...............................135°-150° (watch for the white albumin protein to rise to the surface, this is a signal that it is close to being done, and don't wait for it to flake or it may be over done by the time it is served.


    Keeping an eye on the temperature won't so much good if your thermometer(s) are not calibrated. This goes for your pit thermometer and your kitchen thermometers that you use for monitoring the internal temperatures. There are some online boiling point calculators which take into account daily changes in barametric pressure as well as elevation, but here is a chart that will get you really close. (in other words, don't sweat a couple of degrees)

    ELEVATION .....BOILING POINT
    sea level ........ 212° F
    600 ft ......... 211° F
    1,100 ft ......... 210° F
    1,600 ft ......... 209° F
    2,100 ft ......... 208° F
    2,600 ft ......... 207° F
    3,100 ft ......... 206° F
    3,600 ft ......... 205° F
    4,100 ft ......... 204° F
    4,700 ft ......... 203° F
    5,300 ft ......... 202° F
    6,000 ft ......... 201° F
    6,500 ft ......... 200° F
    7,000 ft ......... 199° F
    7,500 ft ......... 198° F
    8,000 ft ......... 197° F
    8,500 ft ......... 196° F
    9,000 ft ......... 195° F

    FOIL
    Sometimes called a crutch, foil does have a place in barbecuing. Using it when cooking meats is not mandatory so, just look at this way, foil is a tool not a rule. A few times where it comes in handy are: 1. Your barbecued meats are coming out too smokey. 2. You need some control in the color of your finished product (the bark). 3. You need to speed up the cook in order to meet your sit down time. 4. You want to change the texture of your product. Wrapping ribs with some liquid in the foil for example will steam/braise them making them more tender. Some folks sauce and foil thighs (usually a foil covered pan) at the end of the cook too. Following the cook, wrapping and resting meats in foil, especially if you are holding them in a cooler or Cambro-type device works great.

    THE REST
    Allow your meat to rest before slicing or pulling. The juices need time to re-distribute into the meat. A prewarmed cooler is a good place for resting or holding your product until serving. Wrap in foil and use some newspaper for extra insulation if you need to hold it for a couple of hours.

    SERVING
    Ok, now you are ready to dig in. If you are slicing beef, pay attention to the grain and cut across it for tenderness. The slice of brisket on the left is cut with the grain, and the slice on the right is cut across the grain.



    When pulling or chopping beef and pork, remove some of the fat but be sure and mix some of the crust or “bark” in with the meat. Don’t be alarmed if the meat, especially chicken, has a pink color. This is a natural reaction from the smoke. If you monitored your finish temperature and any juices run clear, the meat is done. These baby backs were barbecued for almost 5 hours at 225° using a little cherry wood for smoke. Trust me....they are done.



    You will sometimes notice a red or pink ring around the edge of slices on larger cuts of meat like this brisket. This ring is highly desirable in barbecue competitions, but it adds no special flavor.




    Don't be too eager to slather on the sauce, it is not always necessary. I like to serve a couple of kinds at the table.

    REHEATING
    For reheating barbecue use an aluminum pan. Add a diluted sauce, CocaCola, apple juice, broth or a mixture of any of these to keep the product moist, cover and place in a 250° oven for about an hour or until warm.

    I have the results of a survey of favorite reheating liquids posted in the Rubs, Sauces, Mop section, check it out if you are looking for something new.

    FOOD SAFETY

    The nature of any outdoor cooking event, from grilling some burgers to smoking a brisket for 20 hours, sometimes allows us to let out guard down when it comes to food safety. And I don't just mean once we are in the backyard. I'm talking transporting and preparing raw meats, cooking, and serving.

    HERE
    is a link to the USDA site that discusses barbecue safety issues. It's worth a read.
    Posted by ~thirdeye~
    LBGE      Katy (Houston) TX
  • ..can one even light an egg, without a beverage?
  • thirdeye
    thirdeye Posts: 7,428
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    Hi All,

    My new egg arrives on Wednesday & I can't wait. Although I am a little nervous on how to get started. Any help would be great!
    Thanks
    ;O)


    Welcome to the neighborhood. Using a ceramic cooker is way easier than you could ever believe. But first off, even before the beer and food run, briefly tell us some history of the type of outdoor equipment you have used or own now, your indoor/outdoor cooking abilities, and of course your favorite grilled, barbecued or smoked foods (it doesn't matter if these have been cooked by you or if you just have some favorites you want to learn to cook).
    Happy Trails
    ~thirdeye~

    Barbecue is not rocket surgery
  • large egg head
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    I've come from using a gas model - although always lit by the other half. Now I am on my own, and learning... I haven't tried anything on an egg, but have heard wonderful tails of such enjoyment. So I figured, why not give it a try? Here I am ready to take the challenge.
  • thirdeye
    thirdeye Posts: 7,428
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    Okay....the good thing here is that there are no old habits or techniques that you have to modify. Don't fret cooking with lump charcoal, it's actually very predictable.

    Like fishlessman mentioned, learning fire control is important and you can understand the basics in one evening of playing with vent settings. Give yourself 3 or 4 hours to experiment. Some burgers, dogs or sausages are nice treats to sample on while you are figuring things out.

    Grilling will be the easiest thing to master, roasting would come next, then it's most likely a toss up between barbecuing, and baking things like pizza or breads.

    When it comes to flavors, the options are unlimited. Of course charcoal produces a slight flavor on it's own, adding some wood chips or chunks will boost that. I cook a lot of things with just salt and pepper, but you will have hundreds of options when it comes to rubs, marinades, brines or sauces. It's best to start plain and change one thing at a time, so you learn what combinations are your favorites.

    There are tons of recipes in the recipe section and many members have websites and/or collections of tried and true recipes to explore. A forum regular, DrBBQ has a series of cookbooks that are very good.

    If you click the link to my cookin' site below, look for this section. I have one page with some basic tips. barbecuetipsClickBELOW2-1.jpg
    Happy Trails
    ~thirdeye~

    Barbecue is not rocket surgery
  • [Deleted User]
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    Dude- After I posted this I saw thirdeye's post and it is on the money!

    another thing you should know is with the lump charcoal we use, you can keep re-using it till it's gone! After you're done cooking, clean off the grid and you shut it down by closing the bottom damper and putting the raincap on the chimney. Before your next cook, you go in with the ash tool and stir the lump enough to allow the ash to sift through the grate below.

    also,If you'd like to try dry rubs, I'd recommend dizzy pig because they have a great selection and you can get a sampler pack cheap to try them out:
    http://dizzypigbbq.com/
    Raising the Steaks - beef and sometimes lamb
    Ragin River - Salmon and Pork
    Dizzy dust - Ribs and pork
    tsunami spin - I like on Chicken parts
    Shakin the tree - Chicken

    When starting the fire, leave the dome open until your fire starters(whatever you use) burn out completely. Otherwise they may remain and smolder with not-good smoke during your cook.

    Remember, you're going from a gasser that is somewhat limited, to the Egg which is unlimited in what you can cook. Take it easy and keep it simple as you get started. Cook the stuff you're used to cooking or try something simple, like beercan chicken.

    Also, if you didn't buy a raised grid when you got your Egg, you can make one. These are good for chicken parts, spatchcock chicken, cooking on two levels and anything else you need to cook on a raised grid,08-22.jpg
    (1) 18" dia Weber replacement grid, (3) 3/8"x4.1/2" Carriage bolts with (3) washers each and (3) nuts each. Spatchcock chicken is a good, easy cook but I think you need to cook it on a raised grid. Chicken is very susceptible to smoky flavor so make sure your smoke is clear before you put it on.

    This is a great article to read, especiially if you're used to gas:
    http://playingwithfireandsmoke.blogspot.com/2004/02/introduction-to-barbecuing.html
  • dhuffjr
    dhuffjr Posts: 3,182
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    I'd start off with some simple cooks. Burgers are always good. Some pork chops. Maybe grill up some chicken breasts.

    Get those under your belt and you be seeing the difference the Egg makes.

    One of the most important things to learn is what is good smoke and what is bad smoke.