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You mean you don't like Time value and Aperture value? Charlatans! All of you!
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Going to be tough to get into the $500 range with a pro-sumer lens. It is not a zoom, but the 85 1.8G is a sharp lens. With a crop body that be equivalent to around 130mm. Are you wanting a zoom?
If not, the 18-200 is good, but like @cazzy said, where do you want to go with this hobby? Once you start learning more and more you will quickly outgrow your equipment.
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Eggcelsior said:You mean you don't like Time value and Aperture value? Charlatans! All of you!And as far as glass is concerned, go long or go home!(yeah, this is a rented lens, I couldn't afford the down-payment on this glass)
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Killer shot man!
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I beginning to wonder if I will have to sell an Egg to finance this new hobby...
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jtippers said:I beginning to wonder if I will have to sell an Egg to finance this new hobby...
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@New2Q, I can't see EXIF, what lens is that? I'm headed down to Myrtle Beach in July and want to get some marsh/ocean wildlife pics so I'm going to rent a few lenses to test. Your shot is specifically what I'm looking for with a telephoto to get a pelican diving for fish.
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Eggcelsior said:jtippers said:I beginning to wonder if I will have to sell an Egg to finance this new hobby...
:-SNow I shoot for me...this isn't work, but maybe cause they're my kids.
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Eggcelsior said:jtippers said:I beginning to wonder if I will have to sell an Egg to finance this new hobby...
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I will echo what @Eggcelsior said. Get proficient with your gear first, especially with the fifty. Learn your camera to where you can work the tool with the lights off. Try to ween off Aperture priority to all manual. Take a piece of paper and tape over your viewfinder to not chimp. Get the exposure right by reading your meter as well as assessing the conditions and compensating with fill light accordingly. A lens and or camera can only do so much. The fifty is one of the most widely used lenses for portraits.
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Nice shot @New2Q even if it was shot with a Canon!
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tarheelmatt said:Going to be tough to get into the $500 range with a pro-sumer lens. It is not a zoom, but the 85 1.8G is a sharp lens. With a crop body that be equivalent to around 130mm. Are you wanting a zoom?
If not, the 18-200 is good, but like @cazzy said, where do you want to go with this hobby? Once you start learning more and more you will quickly outgrow your equipment.Get this lens. You've got babies/toddlers to shoot? As you've experienced with the 50 1.8; fast shutter speed is critical. Get used to not using the flash... this lens hunts for low lightJust use your feet as your zoom and focus on perfecting your craft. Best bang for your buck.You said you like bokeh? Both these shot with a Canon 85 mm wide open at 1.8:BGE in the ATX -
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And you haven't even gotten to polarizing len add-ons for outdoor shooting. Can we pick expensive loves or what. Cannon guy here with a few lens over the years but I would trade the photos and the memories for the money I spent. Your heart is in the right place. One more note, around Christmas, some great sales get offered. If you can wait for some of the toys, you may get a little more bang.
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Eggcelsior said:@New2Q, I can't see EXIF, what lens is that? I'm headed down to Myrtle Beach in July and want to get some marsh/ocean wildlife pics so I'm going to rent a few lenses to test. Your shot is specifically what I'm looking for with a telephoto to get a pelican diving for fish.
Full EXIF Info Date/Time 14-Apr-2007 13:12:34 Make Canon Model Canon EOS-1D Mark II Flash Used No Focal Length 600 mm Exposure Time 1/2000 sec Aperture f/4 ISO Equivalent 100 Exposure Bias -2/3 White Balance Metering Mode matrix (5) JPEG Quality Exposure Program aperture priority (3) Focus Distance And it was a rented 600mm f4L non-IS lens. I rented it from Light Tec here in Dallas.I was shooting with it on a Bogen/Manfrotto monopod. My number one piece of advice is to try and rent it before you need it for the Myrtle Beach trip just to get some practice. It took me a few hours of shooting to get a feel for how best to manage that beast. Good luck and have fun on your trip. -
And I do like the wide end of the spectrum as much as the telepho end:
Full EXIF Info Date/Time 20-Apr-2010 21:41:13 Make Canon Model Canon EOS-1D Mark II Flash Used No Focal Length 16 mm Exposure Time 1/125 sec Aperture f/4 ISO Equivalent 50 Exposure Bias White Balance Metering Mode matrix (5) JPEG Quality Exposure Program program (1) Focus Distance -
Just have to take a second and say thanks to all of you guys for the information and guidance. I think I will hold off on the additional lens purchase and learn some more about my camera and how it works first.
I took to YouTube last night and found some informative videos about shooting in manual mode and the exposure triangle. Wow, I really learned a lot! I will try this a while without a flash, then maybe add a flash after I am comfortable with it. THEN, look into getting some new glass.
As always, this forum is a wealth of information! THANKS AGAIN!!!
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@jtippers One guy I really like and follow is Jim Harmer out of Idaho. He runs a site called ImprovePhotography.com and he also offers classes, cheap. He has a podcast that I enjoy as well as updates to the site all the time.
The 85mm 1.8G I noted earlier if you did want that would be a great lens if you truly wanted a nice portrait lens and will work on FX if you were to ever convert. The 18-200 will not as its only a DX lens.
Photo classes site:
http://photoclasses.com/
Main site:
http://improvephotography.com/
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If you want to get good... shoot, a lot.
Def try to learn to be comfortable shooting in Manual or Aperture modes... Primes will help you to learn composition, zooming with your feet, and filling the frame. Get comfortable recognizing def types of natural light before moving on to flash(not saying don't use the pop up if you need to capture a moment, as it is preferable to not getting anything)... Using flash units and modifiers are a whole other level of skill after you're pretty comfortable with your camera and lenses.
Take classes, or begin teaching your self at least the basics of post work... The goal is always to get the best images in the camera at the time of creation, but 99.9% of images you see have had post work of some type to varying degrees. Post work is part of the art and the final image matching your vision is the end goal.
Some of the favorite and most compelling images are not "technically" sound images, out of focus, noisy, uncomfortable composition, etc... but they make the viewer pause and think, hold their attention for a few heartbeats more... Those are the image you are after, no matter what camera, lens, or equipment you are using...
Welcome to the club... have fun and don't stress too much. Focus on the results and not the gear... My favorite images have come using 30year old Minolta glass, my RX100 Point n Shoot, and the always with me, iPhone5S
Follow your vision, don't become a slave to gear or rules... and remember that like most other pursuits, there will be times when interest wanes a little bit (like writers block) and that's okay too, the gear will be there waiting for your to come and pick it up again...
Here are a few portraits and candid shots I've done over the years with various equipment...
Sony F-717... Fancy P&S
This one was with the flash gun bounce of the wall to my right in my parent's dinning room...
With a wide angle 20mm(30 on crop) lens
50/1.7
50/1.7
50/1.7
RX100...
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Great advice Hap! Love the pics...especially the wide angle shot of your daughter!Just a hack that makes some $hitty BBQ....
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Awesome advice! Man that shot of the baby in the isolet the NICU brings back some scary memories about my babies after they were born early. I wish I had been into photography then. That was some ups and downs worthy of publishing.SBGE December 2012 • XLBGE December 2013 • Yoder YS640 JulyLocation: Jasper, Georgia
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jtippers said:Awesome advice! Man that shot of the baby in the isolet the NICU brings back some scary memories about my babies after they were born early. I wish I had been into photography then. That was some ups and downs worthy of publishing.
http://www.blurb.com/books/394683-a-little-family
Better late than never getting started... Good luck
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@hapster - That is an amazing story with a very happy pause... Beautiful Pictures!
I gotta be honest, I got a little teary eyed looking at all of your NICU pics. Brought back a flood of my own memories. Our boys were born at 32 weeks. One weighed 2lb 12oz and the other 3lb 14oz. Both spent a month in the NICU at Northside Hospital in Atlanta. I am convinced that those NICU nurses have earned a special place in Heaven. Our smallest boy (Levi) stopped breathing one day while we were there visiting, wifey and I about lost all composure while one of the nurses walked over to his isolet and calmly worked with him until he "remembered" to breath again. Amazing people.
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jtippers said:@hapster - That is an amazing story with a very happy pause... Beautiful Pictures!
I gotta be honest, I got a little teary eyed looking at all of your NICU pics. Brought back a flood of my own memories. Our boys were born at 32 weeks. One weighed 2lb 12oz and the other 3lb 14oz. Both spent a month in the NICU at Northside Hospital in Atlanta. I am convinced that those NICU nurses have earned a special place in Heaven. Our smallest boy (Levi) stopped breathing one day while we were there visiting, wifey and I about lost all composure while one of the nurses walked over to his isolet and calmly worked with him until he "remembered" to breath again. Amazing people.
I agree... those nurses are amazing. Always calm amid the beeping and buzzing of monitors and alarms. They showed us, although very small, these little babies are a lot tougher than they appear
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