New York Pizza Styles - way more than you thought...

Carolina Q

Just saw this on Eater and thought some of you might be interested. 

http://ny.eater.com/2015/8/7/9050099/new-york-pizza-styles-best-slice

fishlessman

first time ive seen mention of bakery pizza, we still have a couple places that serve it here. also you never hear about the new england greek pizza, love the greasy almost fried bottom pies was watching something about pizza this weekend, the pizza box wasnt invented til the 50's, i still remember places selling it stacked in small bakery boxes, when they eventually changed to the pizza box it lost some of the texture and taste that i liked with the bakery pies

NPHuskerFL

Thanks for sharing that Michael. Good read. 

Carolina Q

fishlessman said:

first time ive seen mention of bakery pizza, we still have a couple places that serve it here. also you never hear about the new england greek pizza, love the greasy almost fried bottom pies was watching something about pizza this weekend, the pizza box wasnt invented til the 50's, i still remember places selling it stacked in small bakery boxes, when they eventually changed to the pizza box it lost some of the texture and taste that i liked with the bakery pies

Virtually all of the non-chain joints here sell only Greek style pizza. 
 
The problem with pizza boxes is that they tend to steam the pie which softens the crust. There are some places that won't even offer take-out because they refuse to put their pies in a box.

cazzy

I had Lombardi's on Friday and Di Fara yesterday.  Lombardi's pizza looked better visually, but DiFara was the best pizza I've ever had.  I still have more pics to edit from DiFara.

Dom Demarco is a legend and I feel fortunate to have a pizza from him before he hangs up his apron!

We are hitting up Keste today!

Ivanhoe

great read! still trying to perfect my pizza cooks

Carolina Q

cazzy said:

I had Lombardi's on Friday and Di Fara yesterday.  

We are hitting up Ketse today!

I wasn't impressed with Lombardi's. Just "okay". Dom's pie, on the other hand, was outstanding! Even reheated! I was in Virginia and my son bought me a Di Fara pie and delivered it, five hours away. Can only imagine what it would have been like fresh out of the oven. BTW, I wouldn't mind standing in line there. It's pizza!!

Did you mean Keste? Haven't been to that one. Yet. Supposed to be great!

cazzy

Carolina Q said:

cazzy said:

I had Lombardi's on Friday and Di Fara yesterday.  

We are hitting up Ketse today!

I wasn't impressed with Lombardi's. Just "okay". Dom's pie, on the other hand, was outstanding! Even reheated! I was in Virginia and my son bought me a Di Fara pie and delivered it, five hours away. Can only imagine what it would have been like fresh out of the oven. BTW, I wouldn't mind standing in line there. It's pizza!!

Did you mean Keste? Haven't been to that one. Yet. Supposed to be great!

Yes, Keste...we just got here.





The depth of flavor in Dom's pizza was outstanding.  I want to go to Pizzeria Beddia...who drew inspiration from Dom and was voted as the new pizza king.

http://www.bonappetit.com/people/chefs/article/beddia

Carolina Q

Motorino too (west village), Paulie Gee's and Roberta's in Brooklyn. I've been talking about a pizza tour for forever. GOT to do it!

fishlessman

Carolina Q said:

fishlessman said:

first time ive seen mention of bakery pizza, we still have a couple places that serve it here. also you never hear about the new england greek pizza, love the greasy almost fried bottom pies was watching something about pizza this weekend, the pizza box wasnt invented til the 50's, i still remember places selling it stacked in small bakery boxes, when they eventually changed to the pizza box it lost some of the texture and taste that i liked with the bakery pies

Virtually all of the non-chain joints here sell only Greek style pizza. 
 
The problem with pizza boxes is that they tend to steam the pie which softens the crust. There are some places that won't even offer take-out because they refuse to put their pies in a box.

one thing ive never been able to duplicate with the greek pizzas (i know you like the ny style) is the tiny crispy bubbles on the crust, one place in particular up in maine is really bubbly, maybe 10000 crunchy bubbles on the top outside crust per pie. tried brushing oil, and spraying it, not even close. place has a really old brick gas oven, im thinking it has to be the oven

Ivanhoe

great article on Beddia!

fishlessman

fishlessman said:

Carolina Q said:

fishlessman said:

first time ive seen mention of bakery pizza, we still have a couple places that serve it here. also you never hear about the new england greek pizza, love the greasy almost fried bottom pies was watching something about pizza this weekend, the pizza box wasnt invented til the 50's, i still remember places selling it stacked in small bakery boxes, when they eventually changed to the pizza box it lost some of the texture and taste that i liked with the bakery pies

Virtually all of the non-chain joints here sell only Greek style pizza. 
 
The problem with pizza boxes is that they tend to steam the pie which softens the crust. There are some places that won't even offer take-out because they refuse to put their pies in a box.

one thing ive never been able to duplicate with the greek pizzas (i know you like the ny style) is the tiny crispy bubbles on the crust, one place in particular up in maine is really bubbly, maybe 10000 crunchy bubbles on the top outside crust per pie. tried brushing oil, and spraying it, not even close. place has a really old brick gas oven, im thinking it has to be the oven

googling them (pizza by alex) i see they use cheddar, that might explain it,its the most crispy outer crust ive ever seen

Carolina Q

fishlessman said:

googling them (pizza by alex) i see they use cheddar, that might explain it,its the most crispy outer crust ive ever seen

Interesting menu! 10" pies only. Most are only $7. Odd "options" too. 

http://www.pizzabyalexmaine.com/menu/

Dunno about the bubbly crust. Maybe you need a deck oven. Have you tried one in the Lacanche?

fishlessman

ive been eating there for over 40 years we have an old family beach house ther that we have had now for 4 generations. went a couple years ago and was dissapointed to see new ovens til an older woman in line demanded hers be cooked in the old oven, of coarse i then said old oven, then everyone in line coming in said old oven tried in the lacanche but didnt get the crust i wanted, im now thinking it may just be the oil in the cheddar popping as it cooks. i like the 10 inch pies, everyone gets a pie

NDG

Nice post - thanks for link.

@cazzy . . . we did Di Fara last year - great memory with a true pizza legend, and that pizza was sooooo good!

I assume you have seen the amazing video about Dom & Di Fara?  If not, below is link . . . a great watch.

EDIT . . . that previous link I posted sucked, wrong video.  The video I wanted to share can not be posted here on the forum, but 100% worth a google search and watch . . only 17 minutes and was played at brooklyn film festival . . CHECK IT OUT !!

• Google Search:  "di fara the best thing i ever done"

NDG

edit

cazzy

NDG said:

edit

It worked.  You just click "watch on Vimeo"

NDG

well two different videos - gotta be the HD vimeo called "the best thing i ever done"

Ivanhoe

Good video! Great story behind it!

NDG

@ivanhoe thanks feedback . . glad the search worked - I really enjoyed it too!

Ivanhoe

@NDG My mom was born in Brooklyn so I am always interested to see stories like this!