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OK---committing heresy here---full disclosure. Love the the adventure of the fire and the cook. However, there are days when time is a factor. Voila---Weber gas time. I have a four burner Summit w/infra red roster, spit attachment. The old girl is giving up the ghost...7-8 yrs old, has been ridden starting to fail. The hinge pin for the hood crapped out last night while cooking some burgers in the dark. A couple cocktails had already been downed so getting the balancing act of the hood to flip the meat etc right to finish the cook took some serious skills. I don't see another 4 burner needed...but do like the rotisserie availability and speed of gas when needed. Quick gas heat also comes in very handy for reverse searing. Also, 4 burner models now called Genesis something or other and have skied in price over the past decade. What suggestions for a solid gasser. I know all about Weber...looking for any advice on others that people have liked. First snow here today in Philly...getting ready for Birds to kick Rams butt...and the final word if Stanton is a Yankee...big doings in Philadelphia. Thanks for any help.


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