Global warming my A$$

Let's look at the facts. The hottest year recorded was 1934 followed by 1998. Since 1998 we have been cooling and have had one of the coldest years in the past century.

Yes, oceans have risen. Yes, it has warmed. Historically it has done this every single century since the last ice age that we are still warming up from. For a person to say we are making it worse is failing to realize it is what it has always historically been. The only exception is the heat island affect since it has definitely warmed our cities and reducing carbon or methane will do nothing to stop that.

Let's look at several reasons why cooling has taken place. The PDO has turned and is going to cool things even more which you might have seen in the news. The sun cycle number 24 has failed to start and there are highly respected scientists questioning whether or not we are entering a period like the Maunder Minimum.

Neither the PDO shift or the sun cycle not starting was predicted by any climate model or scientist it just happened. Nor do scientists understand how clouds affect the climate but we all know cloudy days aren't as warm as sunny days. Global warming advocates are not about the science nor have they ever been because otherwise, there would be much more talk about cooling which will kill many more people than warming which only increases wildlife, vegetation, crops, and our quality of living.

When I was in grade school (late 60's-early 70's) the teachers all told us we would freeze to death in 30 years: all the polution would block the sun, lowering the earths temp and creating an ice-age. We had to take all kinds of articles home to our parents encouraging them to not kill the planet in a ball of ice. It must have been true...all the scientists said so....

"warming" doesn't mean you'll necessarily be warm.

alas.

if they called it "f*cked up weather patterns" people would start believing in it more.

the thing i find funny is that people will say "the warming and cooling cycles are natural". ok. given. now, where did you get this info? since you weren't here, you must be trusting the scientists who tell you. somehow i don't see you taking ice core samples yourself, so this must be you trusting science. question then becomes, how do you pick and choose which science? it's a rhetorical question. i don't need an answer. i just find it interesting is all.

if you accept the evidence for cyclic behavior, how do you then discount that same evidence telling you that it is vastly accelerated, likely by man? and how does the knowledge that your car puts close to a few TONS of stuff in the air annually get glossed over, especially when everyone else is driving a car that does the same thing?

Could use a little of that down here. Also if anybody has some extra rain send it down to help put these damn fires out.

Pat
Melbourne, Fla

I thought I read were those fires intentionally started? Do they know if that is correct?

GG

AGW is little more than a scheme to separate suckers (read: taxpayers) from their dollars. Think Al Gore is chin-deep in "green" investments out of the good of his heart (while managing to consume three times the electricity as I do on a per-sf basis)?

If you are not a part of the solution there is a lot of money to be made in continuing the problem.

I am all for global warming. I just need to find a way to get people to pay me to combust natural carbon offsets in my specially designed cermaic treatment unit. I will, of course, rid them of some of those pesky, methane-producing, cows.

GG is right (once again). A very simplistic, but very accurate way to understand the idea of antropogenhic global warming is to consider who benefits and who pays the price.

At the moment, the focus seems to be on the USA. Reality tells us that the USA, while still influential, will not be a dertermining or even an important factor in reducing carbon emissions. China and India are adding tens of millions of automobiles every year. The same two nations are putting more than one coal fired electric plant on line every week. There is nothing that the USA can do to in any way decrease the amount of CO2 being released to the atmosphere other than voluntarily going back to the stone age.

Additionally, the nations of Africa want to come into the 21st century. Africa, like the US, has abundant coal reserves. These will be used to help Africans. Yes, they want things like well-built homes, air conditioning, electric washers and dryers, etc. All of these require electricity and electrical generation requires fuel - in the case of Africa that fuel is coal. We must accept the fact that the amount of CO2 will increase.

This increase may boost global warming or may usher in a period of wealth and development that was seen in the Medieval warming period. We simply do not know and anyone who claims he/she does is a charlatin.

Just my thoughts, but do keep in mind that a USA centric position is not longer connected to reality.

Wayne