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What other things should I replace when replacing the lower portion of a Large BGE?

danhoodanhoo Posts: 215
I expect I'll be getting a new lower half of a large BGE under warranty. 

What might I expect included with the warranty lower half, and what should I source now so I can make the swap?

And, where is the best place to obtain these items.

Everything is original vintage 2011. 

I have a working list of things, so I'm hoping to get a complete list of what I should replace when doing this.

Tnx in advance.
2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)

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  • lousubcaplousubcap Posts: 24,637
    From one who has been down that road once with the base and then with a friggin gravity (aren't most induced that way...) replacement of other pieces/parts you will get a base and that is all.  
    Thus you can keep the band assembly you have from the original 2011 rig or order the new band assembly.  But that and anything else is on you.  FWIW-
    BTW- welcome aboard and the above is likely not what you were seeking here and you may get a better deal.  You and your dealer.  Good luck.
    Louisville; "indeterminate Jim" here.  Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215
    edited July 7
    I'll be candid, I'm not really expecting anything extra, just wondering what to expect.  The band and the spring hinge seem to be in good shape, yet they are10 years old. A new band assembly is a little spendy. Is that really needed? Can I just replace the two bolts that deform during assembly?  What about the bolts that hold the springs?

    Is there a list of hardware along with sizes? I mean I can measure these all myself, but I was hoping someone would have this.
     
    Let me try to post a pic...
    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • lousubcaplousubcap Posts: 24,637
    edited July 7
    You can definitely salvage the band assembly and go to the dealer and get the requisite bolts.  They are grade Five and here is a pic I found thru the forum search function:
    Yes, Grade 5. Look for heads with markings like these...

    Hope this helps-
    Edit:  I don't see any issue with the spring assmembly bolts but again challenge the dealer.  Make it their issue.  
    Louisville; "indeterminate Jim" here.  Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215
    edited July 7
    Thanks for the note.

    The original dealer is no longer a BGE dealer. They are handling the warranty through the regional distributor. We'll see how it plays out. 

    I'll think I'll visit the new dealer in town and see what they suggest. 

    Thanks again.

    So a couple of nuts and bolts, and a gasket may be all I need.

    Is a fresh coat of high temp paint for the band and nest a good idea? or is it a bad idea? 

    I've used Rustoleum high heat ultra on other projects... 
    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • lousubcaplousubcap Posts: 24,637
    "So a couple of nuts and bolts, and a gasket may be all I need."  You are right with the nuts and bolts as long as the base issue causing the replacement is not a warping issue that could have impacted the bands.
    No need for any paint with the bands in my experience.  The nest can need can need care and feeding to preclude rusting out.
    Gasket depends on the fit when replaced.  @RRP is the true BGE gasket whisperer and provides great service and instructions for gasket replacement.  He is a Rutland gasket (one side only) guru.  Many posts here-go thru the search function to decide how you may want to proceed.  FWIW-
    Louisville; "indeterminate Jim" here.  Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!
  • DondgcDondgc Posts: 695
    There will never be a better time to upgrade to the new bands than when you replace the lower half.  New bands will also include a new handle (mine was shot). Of course, if you don’t want to spend the $140, you can skip the bands. 

    My bands were OLD and rust was not a problem.  
    New Orleans LA
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215
    a rutland gasket was is on the top of my list.

    I'll inspect the bands more closely. I didn't realize they were new-and-improved. I'll have to check them out when I visit the new dealer.

    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 28,305
    if its under warranty and the firebox and or ring is cracked, thats under warranty as well. i would stick with the old bands til they no longer work, the dome lifts higher and doesnt slide back like the new ones
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • buzd504buzd504 Posts: 3,553
    Dondgc said:
    There will never be a better time to upgrade to the new bands than when you replace the lower half.  New bands will also include a new handle (mine was shot). Of course, if you don’t want to spend the $140, you can skip the bands. 

    My bands were OLD and rust was not a problem.  

    The new bands are very nice, IMO. 
    NOLA
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215
    edited July 8
    if its under warranty and the firebox and or ring is cracked, thats under warranty as well. i would stick with the old bands til they no longer work, the dome lifts higher and doesnt slide back like the new ones

    @fishlessman Thank you. The fire ring is also cracked. I wasn't aware it also has a lifetime warranty. I've added that to the request. 

    The hope to hear back early next week. I was told the parts manager is on vacation this week.

    On the bands, for now I'm going to stay with the originals. They may get a fresh coat of rusto high temp semi gloss.





    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215
    edited July 9
    lousubcap said:
    "So a couple of nuts and bolts, and a gasket may be all I need."  You are right with the nuts and bolts as long as the base issue causing the replacement is not a warping issue that could have impacted the bands.
    No need for any paint with the bands in my experience.  The nest can need can need care and feeding to preclude rusting out.
    Gasket depends on the fit when replaced.  @RRP is the true BGE gasket whisperer and provides great service and instructions for gasket replacement.  He is a Rutland gasket (one side only) guru.  Many posts here-go thru the search function to decide how you may want to proceed.  FWIW-
    Thanks, re-reading your reply there isn't any warping. There has been a surface cosmetic crack for a few years and it seems to have gotten worse in the past year or so. I just recently noticed the crack now goes through to the inside.

    The nest and the bands are in pretty good shape, but since I'll have it all apart it seems like a good time to sand and prime any bare metal and give it all a fresh coat to last another 10 years.

    Thanks again. Right now I'm just waiting on the distributor.  I decided to sideline the BGE now that I know about the more serious crack :(
    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215

    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215

    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • BBQ DadBBQ Dad Posts: 1
    edited July 10
    I recently had the same issue (lower-half cracks) in my 20-year old egg and the replacement is a bit wider than the old one which has caused 1/4" gap all the way around the firebox and ring. The top is also a bit smaller but there still seems to be enough coverage on the gasket to not be an issue. 
  • danhoodanhoo Posts: 215
    Thanks BBQ Dad. I've always had a gap on the inside between the firebox and ring and the lower egg. Hopefully it will match width to the top but if not I'll at least be on the lookout for it.

    I'm happy that I have a Rutland gasket from @RRP on the way so if the lid and new base are slightly different sizes, the gasket should handle it. 

    Oh, and welcome to eggheadforum.

    2011 large BGE | 2000 Genesis Silver B | 2019 PitBoss pro 820 | 2016 Genesis E330 (bought used in 2021)
  • lousubcaplousubcap Posts: 24,637
    @BBQ_Dad welcome aboard and enjoy the journey.  Above all, have fun.
    Clearly you have a few decades of experience with the BGE.  Everyone here ( for the most part) is looking to lift their game and I suspect you have a whole lot of knowledge that would benefit us all.
    Feel free to bring it on.  
    Louisville; "indeterminate Jim" here.  Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!
  • YukonRonYukonRon Posts: 16,558
    You need to add a table to hold your adult beverage.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
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