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sundogbrew
sundogbrew Posts: 3
edited November -0001 in EggHead Forum
I am a new egger. Wife gave me a large egg for X-mass, but gave it to me last week so I can get some practice and not burn the Christmas roast. I have cooked some stuff and had some luck but also some not so good luck. Some tips might be helpful...
It seems that the fire is either too high or too low. I am not sure about the right amount of charcoal to put in it and how to light it to get the right fire going. People say you only need a little fire for something and more for others. Seems like when I have thrown caution to the wind and just let the fire rip I have had the best experience. I tried to make burgers the first day and undercooked them. The next day I tried to make a pork tenderloin and over cooked it. I made pizza and even though I did everything wrong it came out really good (I had the fire blazing for that one.) Made some sausages and they came out good but then did burgers again and over cooked them.
I am cooking a standing rib with the bone cut off but tied back on for Christmas. If I ruin it the wife will kill me and loose faith in my grilling abilities.
One last thing, I am a woodworker so I plan on making a table for it, but it is currently sitting on a couple of patio blocks. I am wondering am I going to miss being able to look down through the top to judge things?
One more last thing, how long does a big back of charcoal usually last?
Any help or advice is appreciated!
Thanks
Joe

Comments

  • Boatman
    Boatman Posts: 854
    Welcome to the club. You are hooked. Your grilling expertise is about to get a major renovation as others, much more experianced than I will chime in and get you started. I personally fill my large to the top of the firebox no matter what I am cooking and regulate the temperature by the draft control and DFMT. Get yourself a good meat thermometer and you shouldn't overcook/undercook anything again. Relax, enjoy and learn, but most of all - have a good time. Merry Christmas B)
  • First, fill your firebox with lump for ALL fires. Next go at your first opportunity & light a fire & LEARN temp controll. Start shooting for approx. 250 (low & slow temp.) When you are at about 200 set your vents where they should be for 250 & let it stabalize. Most are open about 1/8" at the bottom & daisey pedals barely open for this.
    If you accomplish that then try to let a little more air in & hit 350 (a good roasting temp.) Once you are stable there, then if you want you can go higher for grilling/searing but you should have the idea by then.
    Less air = lower temp. More air = higher temps.
    When you shut it down, the fire should go out in approx. an hour. Once cold, stir the leftover lump to shake the ash through your grate & add more lump as necessary. Lastly, learn to cook anything to an internal temp. not for a particular length of time.
    Hope this helps, welcome & good eggin to ya.
  • From one Egg Newbie to another - Fill to top of Fire Ring for long and slow cook. And between fire box and ring for normal. Here is what I learned. Cook to Temperature not Time. Search this forum for what your cooking to get different ideas on temps and times. A lot is trial and error. But to me the biggest hurdle was getting used to cooking to temp and not time.

    Here is a link that someon posted and it was a big help

    http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=994672&catid=1
  • Here's my two cents worth after a year of egging. I find the brand of charcoal can make a difference - for grilling I use Cowboy charcoal as it heats up quickly. For low and slow and overnight cooks I use Wicked Good Charcoal which seems denser and can hold a temp for longer. If I use it for a quick grill, I get frustrated waiting for it to heat up and end up constantly adjusting the vents and chasing the temp dial.

    I light the charcoal with a MAPP torch (about $40 including the igniter bit). It gets the coal up to temp quickly and impresses the ladies. You'll find we all have our own preferred methods, I guess there's no right or wrong.

    Check the thermometer by dipping it in boiling water - if it's off, you'll have to grip the bolt on the back with a pair of pliers and twist the dial. I checked mine over the summer and found it was about 50F off at boiling temps.

    I won't give any tips on cooking techniques, other members have waaaay more experience than me, I'm still learning.

    Have fun, and good luck with the rib. I'm doing beef tenderloin which cost a small fortune, and I'm similarly nervous about screwing up.
  • Congratulations and Welcome. Don't have much to add to what the others posted. I like early Christmas gifts.
  • forgot to add: although you probably don't want to fork out more cash at this point, an instant read thermometer from Thermoworks is also very useful (about $90 bucks or so online).
  • Yep your right. I bought on and LOVE it. Best thing I bought so far for this Egg. I have grilled / smoked for years but this BGE has taken it to a new level.
  • SmokeyPitt
    SmokeyPitt Posts: 10,490
    Welcome! Lots of great advice so far.

    A standing rib roast is a great cook and pretty forgiving. Here is one method:

    http://www.nakedwhiz.com/madmaxprimerib.htm

    Plan on lighting your fire an hour before you want to put it on to get the fire nice and stable. Don't fuss over the temp of the egg too much. If you are shooting for 325 and it settles in at 350 no big deal. DO watch the internal temp of the meat. I highly recommend some kind of probe style thermometer that allows you to monitor the temp of the meat with the egg closed. If you don't have time to get one of those- then a simple "oven going" thermometer you can get at any grocery store will suffice. Just put in in the top so you can look down through the daisy wheel to check the temp.

    Good luck!


    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. 

  • A $100 thermapen will just about guarrantee you no under or over cooks. I agree with all others on amount of charcoal per use. I'd recommend practicing stabilizing at diff temps instead of chancing your Christmas dinner. I always let my temp get as hot as I can, normally about 700-750 then I work it down. I think you get a clean burn that way. A Thermapen is a wonderful gadget!
    Large & MiniMax in Lexington, KY
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    Do follow the link listed above by bwag829. The list of newbie info Grandpa's Grub put together is pretty complete.

    You don't mention if you have a quick read thermometer. If you don't, get at least a $10 - $15 pocket therm. They are not terribly accurate or quick, but are of great use telling when meats being cooked are just about ready.

    Forget most of what you know from metal cookers. Ceramic cookers are way different. The big thing is that the Egg has really good air flow control (assuming the lid seal is tight.) That is the key to regulating the fire no matter how much lump you have in. Even a couple of handfuls of lump burning with the top and bottom vents all the way open will give a hot, if brief, fire.

    You mention you made a pizza, so I guess you must have a stone, or something to block the heat from the lump. The difference between grilling direct and indirect is large. If cooking on a grill raised to the lid level, and a dome of 350, you can burn burgers. Placing something underneath, even a pie pan, will pretty much guarantee that any burgers above it will not char. Of course, you can always overcook by leaving them in too long, but most likely they will not end up cinders.

    When cooking, keep the lid down as much as possible. For quick cooks, like burgers, brats, chicken pieces, etc., you will only need to open every 10 minutes or so with temps between 300 and 400. Keep the lid open for the shortest time possible. And don't be distracted by temperature variances after you open the lid. If the vent positions do not change, the heat inside the Egg will pretty quickly come back to where it was before opening the vents.

    Good luck. All the posts so far have had good info, and if you are a little careful, the roast should be fine.

    Again, do get a thermometer if you don't have one!
  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    I'm sure letting the dome temp reach 700 would give a really clean burn. It would be an interesting side-by-side test to see what was faster: getting to 250, and waiting till the heavy smoke clears, or running up to 700, and seeing how long it would take to drop back to 250.
  • That would be an interesting race. Ive had my egg for a little over a year now. I forget who on this forum recommended me to get it as hot as possible and then drop it down. It doesn't take that long at all to drop it to your desired temp. Ive always done it that way.
    Large & MiniMax in Lexington, KY
  • FlaPoolman
    FlaPoolman Posts: 11,677
    Going to high temps and then waiting for temps to come down is just a waste of lump. If you want to get to temp quicker just light in more places or use a weed burner.
  • Thank you for all the info!!
    I do have a good instant thermometer and I have a one to leave in with the cord to the display. Do you put it through the top or through the felt at the lid?
    Also nobody answer how much charcoal they go through in a month or certain amount of cooks.
    Thanks
    Joe
  • FlaPoolman
    FlaPoolman Posts: 11,677
    Anywhere from 10 to 60 pounds in a month. :huh: all depends on the cooks
  •  
    Congratulations and welcome to the forum.

    You need to learn to control your egg, which is a simple task. There are some links above which will be of great help. Of course, you have watched the video/CD and read the manual. Also, make sure you calibrate your dome thermometer.

    A Standing Rib Roast is a great cook, easy and very rewarding. I didn't do a sear (before or after) and you are not going to see that medium cooked ring around the outside edge of the meat. Love the medium rare and wanted the whole cut to be that way.

    primerib.jpg

    primeribcut.jpg

    Here is a link with instructions to cook a great Standing Rib Roast (Prime Rib)

    Cook your food to temperature and not to time. Get a Thermapen.

    Again congratulations on your new egg.

    GG
  • Never really thought about it. I'll give it a try.
    Large & MiniMax in Lexington, KY
  • Get ahold of some Wicked good charcoal, and give it a try its some good stuff its all I use! :) happy egging!