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Anyone know why my table is leaning so much...
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TheDirtyBurger
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I have had my BGE compact table about 2 years, got it second hand so total it is maybe 4 years old tops
I have tightened the nuts on the bolts on every part of the table. It is still wobbly and leans to the left (the side the egg is on with a paver).
Could it just be too much weight on 1 side? Any other ideas? I am afraid it will buckle during a cook and do some damage. I will take a pic and post it when I get home from work
thanks
tim
I have tightened the nuts on the bolts on every part of the table. It is still wobbly and leans to the left (the side the egg is on with a paver).
Could it just be too much weight on 1 side? Any other ideas? I am afraid it will buckle during a cook and do some damage. I will take a pic and post it when I get home from work
thanks
tim
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Definetly post a pic. It sounds like you may need an angle brace in there someplace :unsure:
Capt Frank
Homosassa, FL -
Hey there Dirty,
My brother and I have both had some of those same concerns. Shortly after I built my table I felt it wasn't sturdy enough. I made a pretty ugly "patch" of a cross brace last year, from a scrap 2 x 10. My table sits up against my fence . . . so I haven't prettied it up. It has made a BIG difference in the stability of the table though!!
Here's a quick pic of the table showing the back of it and my "brace"....
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there's apparently no lateral bracing in the table other than "moment" connections at the corners. and moment connections don't work well in wood. (over)tightening them can actually make it worse.
a single 2x4 running corner to opposite corner would do the same. i'm assuming yours was a scrap. just letting folks know that you don't need a big chunk of wood, a 2x4 will do it.
two cables would do it too (in an 'X'). -
but you ought to see the wren house he built with the rest of that board! :laugh:Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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How much beer has that table had? :laugh:Dave San Jose, CA The Duke of Loney
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Don't listen to them Dirty, the BGE is well worth a little overkill in the bracing department....
You guys insinuating I wouldn't make it as a carpenter??
You're right!
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no. just saying that that bracing larger than you need it to be. it is only doing two things: acting in compression or acting in tension.
bracing doesn't need to be that big to do the job is all i'm saying.
you can't pull a 2x4 apart with any of the stresses in that table, and you can't crush it along it's length either.
that's all...
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Jeff meet Mark, Mark meet Jeff - that was all tongue in cheek - Mark is a buddy of mine and now that I sold him some LaBomba I even have him in my back pocket! :evil:Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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i figured he wazza friend of yours... poor guy.
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What gave away that he was friends with run? The old Peoria Backbrace job on the table?
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Ron's mentioning the birdhouse
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blevitz
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You guys are ruthless, but Ron, I've figured it out. I think what we have here is a case here of "Brace Envy"
And the LaBomba was not a good thing to get me started on. I've hidden the jar in the fridge. Just to protect everyone else from getting started on it, ya know . . . -
hell. i don't even have a damn table. i have table envy. brace envy can wait
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I don't have a table. If I make one, I'm starting with the brace first, and build around it.
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NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!!!!!!
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I'm partial to the turnbuckle style.... Good for future adjustmsnts.Happy Trails~thirdeye~Barbecue is not rocket surgery -
need two in 'x' fashion for the table though. only good in tension
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Mine has not started leaning, but I've got the same problem with it being wobbly. The bolts at the corners have sunken into the wood from being tightened too much (my fault), making it worse.
Can I safely remove the bolts (1 at a time), and put nice big washers on both ends to improve the stability?
Thanks,
DaveFood & Fire - The carnivorous ramblings of a gluten-free grill geek. -
wouldn't hurt.
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Right..... if a lateral force influenced one of the two, the other one would go into compression until it deformed or buckled a little. Then the first one would have to bear it all?Happy Trails~thirdeye~Barbecue is not rocket surgery
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Weatherproof glue is your friend. Can you do one leg at a time? and all the bracing, I'm partial to the cables in an X shape for all the engineering reasons cited.
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The answer is obvious.. Your're in Chicago right? Everyone knows Chicago leans to the left, so that is a normal condition for your table. Ha ha :woohoo:
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Right. If you had one diagonal of wood, it could handle both compression and tension. A wire can't handle anything but tension, so if you put one going in the opposite corner, making an 'x', each one will handle the tension in whatever direction it comes from, negating the compression. Your gate illustration only requires one cable, but it must ALWAYS start (hang) high on the hinge side and go low to the outside bottom corner of the gate.
I had the worlds best structures prof. He was actually the guy who instilled the idea of 'concept over specifics' for me.ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante -
I got it, I think, with regards to the wire.
Now, if you were using a wood member, say 2" wide X 3/4" thick...... what is the difference if it is attached with one nail on each end, and two nails on each end? Wouldn't the one nail attachment allow for some moment?Happy Trails~thirdeye~Barbecue is not rocket surgery -
Intersting thing is you only need one nail at each end. You can't deform a triangle. Well, you can deform a triangle if the sides bend, but that's not possible in this situation.
Good illustration of the concept is two shapes made with drinking straws. Take four straws and form a square, with one pin (nail) at each corner. That thing will fold like a lawn chair. Take three straws and make a triangle. Pin each corner. You can't rack that frame. Same thing for the table. A simple 1x1 nailed with one nail at each opposite(low/high) corner will make the table rigid. God loves a diagonal. And, to paraphrase Robert Frost, something there is that doesn't love a square.
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