10 Common Turkey-Making Pitfalls

i'll back up, so that you understand my point,because you seem to be missing it.

you posted as "MrGobbler101", implying you are an expert. your opening line tells us you cook 50 turkeys a year....

don't jump on my case because you implied you are something you aren't. how are we to know you copied/pasted?

i know i'm an ass. you don't need to tell me that. but i think you DO need to be told to try not to tell us how to cook a turkey when you are merely copying crap off the 'net.

your post was well intended, but misleading. that's all i said.

you're the one trying to act put-upon. i wasn't attacking or being hostile. i was asking you to clarify, because you implied that you have everything to teach us about turkey, mr gobbler101, but your story didn't add up

we don't expect footnotes and quotation marks. but don't feel accosted when someone asks if your first post is something copied from someone else's work, or if it is yours.

I used to be all that!!

It would be real easy for me to be all that again..

We thank you for posting Rick Roger's opinions on turkey roasting...

Pretty gutsy for a first post, but you should know that when you post something like this you run a foul of other peoples opinions. People by nature will defend their opinions, unless actually proven wrong.

While I agree with some of Rick Roger's opinions I disagree with others. The biggest thing I disagree with is his claim "I roast 50 turkeys a year" - So.. If cooking quantities of anything makes you the all telling expert then I am the Universal Pork Butt Master. My opinions carry some weight, but that doesn't mean people won't disagree. They have that God given right.

Welcome to the forum. We value all opinions, but stand ready to have your opinions challenged. It is the nature of man and the internet..

You have a Bless Day!!

Just for the record, I took no offense to your post but you really are being inflammatory right now. Good time to sit back, re-read and think before submitting another.

Steve

is #10 yours because it is not on the linked page. why would you add that? i'm just sayin

Max, there's always the frozen lemon halves packed with herbed butter tucked under the skin. I've done it that way the past two years with great success. Of course, it does look a might X-rated.

I’ve been following this thread with great interest…Wanting to see where it goes next!
Sometimes with laughter, insight, lessons and then other times scratching my head in wonderment :huh: ??!!
I have been reading this forum for about three or four years and have been a member / contributor for just over a year now. That really does make me a newbie to this community of Eggheads, but I enjoy it, I share here and I learn here! It has been a great source of information and even camaraderie (is that spelled right?).
However, it is true (as stated by some already) that some contributors seem to have an extra large ego (or what ever), sometimes to the point of embarrassment for me. I actually feel sorry for the person who gets blasted by these folk! Most often for something seemingly straight forward and honest.
I may be the next to get blasted for this post, but oh well… :ohmy: I know for a fact that I am on more then one “****” list for speaking my mind. I most often say what I mean, on the other hand, desperately trying not to be mean when saying it.
With all of that said, I stand down from my soap box with a quote (don’t know who said it); “The key is to be civil. Peace is not the absence of conflict. It is the embracing of conflict as a challenge and an opportunity to grow”

i won't speak for NB, who as far as I know doesn't have an ego. He's as level-headed a dude as ever there was.

and max wasn't threatening either.

Maybe you are referring to my post, which staarted with a welcome and simply asked a legit question: was he "rick rodgers" (i have no idea who that is, if i'm supposed to know, sorry), and is this his method?

that's all. i asked him to clarify, because he said (well, the post said, and i thought he was referring to himself) that he did 50 turkeys a year. then it said he has done six. his handle implied he is the go-to dude on turkey, so, yeah, it would be helpful to understand. i have no problem with a dude offering help or tips, and if he took it as an attack, perhaps he was aware it came off like he was a self-proclaimed authority.

i can count on one hand the number of times a post has asserted that the person is "an expert". both were this week.

perhaps the tone of my reply was brusque. tone (or lack of it) is a common problem on a forum. all i know he reacted as though i'd attacked him, which is patently incorrect. i gave him the "welcome" everyone deserves, and just asked him to clarify, because it turned out the whole post had been clipped. no, it's not a frikkin crime to cut and paste. it just muddied the whole thing. couple with it being his first post, as "Mr.Gobbler101" no less, implies he's all about turkey, and here to educate everyone.

simply asked if he was the fabled "rick" himself, or just a fan posting his method.

it's only when he got p!ssy that it escalated (on my end).

i don't give a rat's ass if folks here use max's method, i don't get a dividend. i just thought it odd that a dude's first post was all about his expertise, and when asked to expand on it a bit, he took it as an attack.

i hear this complaint often. "i'm attacked" , "there's a clique". wah wah wah.don't assert you are an expert and then fold like a lawn chair when someone asks a question. maybe it's that folks don't take a direct question very well. this place has a healthy history of people (excepting a small minority)respectfully disagreeing.

i know one guy here who is still licking wounds over some apparent snub re: thermometer manufacturers. puh-leeze. people like to imagine slights and attacks where there aren't any. get over it.

i maintain i attacked no one, and nature boy didn't either (he just called it as he saw it: viz, a copy-paste job)

and max is the nicest guy in the world. no crap from him either. it follows then that the "attack" is an imagined one.

I can see how MrGobbler would take your initial reply as a gauntlet tossed to the ground as it had a distinct challenging, in-your-face tone to it. Speaking for myself, I try to not let my ego and opinions here outrun my knowledge on a given topic, and I'd be the last to act as the keeper of the forum's official received wisdom. I'd hate to be in the position of having to change my username every few weeks because I've ruined my rep.

Good heavens, I'd completely forgotten about that thermometer discussion. No, it's been a series of things not unlike the post that vexed MrGobbler, a tendency to high-handedness that has made me decide to avoid interaction with you, Jeff. No apologies requested, necessary or, given this latest snarl, even legitimate or manly. Things are what they are.

For the record, I think you do great work on the Egg and I've learned a great deal from reading your posts (the ones on aging and food safety are treasures of knowledge). I'll keep reading and learning.