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OT: Water heater broke. Which brands are are best?
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My sister's water heater broke. Which brands are are best?
Evernote is down - my notes on this are in there. I believe my plumber recommended AO smith and Bradford white.
ps: Yay for Sous Vide! I can just toss the chicken breasts in the fridge!
pps: Is it possible to make the water go some place safe instead of all over the place when they DO break? I'm going to install a D-link sensor on mine. But I'd really like another fail-safe so that the water diverts to someplace intentional when it leaks.
Evernote is down - my notes on this are in there. I believe my plumber recommended AO smith and Bradford white.
ps: Yay for Sous Vide! I can just toss the chicken breasts in the fridge!
pps: Is it possible to make the water go some place safe instead of all over the place when they DO break? I'm going to install a D-link sensor on mine. But I'd really like another fail-safe so that the water diverts to someplace intentional when it leaks.
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AO Smith is the bestCharlotte, NC - Large BGE 2014, Maverick ET 733, Thermopen, Nest, Platesetter, Woo2 and Extender w/Grid, Kick Ash Basket, Pizza Stone, SS Smokeware Cap, Blackstone 36"
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This may sound stupid to some here, but after I turned 65 I decided I would NEVER replace another hot water heater myself like I had 2 of them before. I ended up selecting a Whirlpool brand with a 12 year warranty, which cost me $125 to have it installed in my basement and the old one carried off. I will NEVER regret that decision plus it gave me a real wake up call to letting some younger dude do that heavy lifting sh*t thereby giving him a job. Shortly thereafter I paid $9K to have my home painted outside for the first time in 34 years.
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Bradford White or Rheem. They do have drip pans that come with a drain with a hose connection you could run to a sump pump but they usually only work with a small leak, if the whole thing leaks you are still SOL.
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If it is a simple leak then a drip pan with a drain tube or a small sump type pump and hose can feed it somewhere else.
However, they don't always fail in such a neat fashion. The last water heater I replaced developed a leak at one of the threaded fittings and was spraying water in a stream about 10 feet long. No drip pan would deal with that.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
RRP said:I ended up selecting a Whirlpool brand with a 12 year warranty, which cost me $125 to have it installed in my basement and the old one carried off.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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Thanks everyone.
This makes me want to put an instant water shut off somewhere when I replace mine. So I can easily turn all water off when on vacation.
Does that exist?
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Have you consider a tankless? Rinnai.
I have 2 AO Smith units (1 for main house and 1 for Mother-in-law suite which happens to be my Mother) and have been satisfied.
There are obvious benefits to a tankless unit but, the cost/savings can end up being a wash if you have to modify a lot to get it to spec design.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL -
I don't know which brand is better. I think that they often use a lot of universal parts. I have have a Rheem that I put in a few years ago. The flammable vapor sensor went relatively quickly. I think that it was under warranty, but I just bought a new one to get it fixed quickly. My dad's water heater started leaking last week and I helped him haul the new one in and the old one out.
I put a pan under mine this time. I still have to hook it up properly, but I have a sensor for my alarm system that will set off an alarm if the tanks starts to leak and collect in the pan.
To save the tank, one is supposed to be able to by a new sacrificial anode before the old one is exhausted to extend the life of the water heater. A bigger anode or additional anode is supposed to be the biggest difference between a 12 year and 9 year water heater in terms of life.Large BGE
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Mine went out last week and we put in a Rheem.
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NPHuskerFL said:Have you consider a tankless? Rinnai.
I have 2 AO Smith units (1 for main house and 1 for Mother-in-law suite which happens to be my Mother) and have been satisfied.
There are obvious benefits to a tankless unit but, the cost/savings can end up being a wash if you have to modify a lot to get it to spec design.Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga -
I recently replaced mine with an 80 gallon Rheem hybrid electric water heater. Wasn't cheap, but we have a big house and it's just me and my wife, so we have to have a big water heater to supply the house when needed but that's not the norm so this unit should save us money over the long term. The unit connects to wifi and has an app so that I can switch between heat pump only, hybrid, or electric only (or just turn it off like I do for vacations). Living in SE Florida with the water heater in the garage, I have plenty of hot air for it to use so I leave it in heat pump only (side benefit: it's like a small AC for that corner of the garage).
Been very pleased with it so far.
When they installed the drip pan, they cut a hole on the side facing the garage so that if the pan does start to fill, the water will drain onto the garage floor and not the interior wall. Obviously if the failure is catastrophic, all bets are off.
As for vacation, I just shut water main to the whole house from outside. You never know what line will break (washer, hot water heater, dishwasher, sink, toilet, etc.). At least the damage will be limited to what's in the pipes.
Be aware that replacing the water heater may require a permit from your city so if you do it yourself, be sure you check into that.
Also, check if the local utility offers rebates on energy efficient models. And there is a small federal tax credit for energy efficient models as well.Two Large Eggs, 6 gal Cajun Fryer, and a MiniMax in Charlotte, NC - My New Table
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Replacing AO Smith in one of our rent houses in Salado on the morning. Worked 12 years and contractors grade.Salado TX & 30A FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Plus a couple Pit Boss Pellet Smokers.
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I've been told they are all crap now. Designed to barely last the warranty period. I wouldn't overspend because even the high dollar ones will crap out in less than ten years.
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they all seem to die one month before the warranty is up, i try to buy the same one to make the plumbing easier. i seem to be collecting the old ones in the basementfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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fishlessman said:they all seem to die one month before the warranty is up, i try to buy the same one to make the plumbing easier. i seem to be collecting the old ones in the basement
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I suggest staying away from big box retailer models. Find a Plumbing vendor/wholesaler and get a quality model. Difference between lasting 5 years and lasting 15 years.~ John - https://www.instagram.com/hoosier_egger
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pgprescott said:fishlessman said:they all seem to die one month before the warranty is up, i try to buy the same one to make the plumbing easier. i seem to be collecting the old ones in the basement
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pgprescott said:I've been told they are all crap now. Designed to barely last the warranty period. I wouldn't overspend because even the high dollar ones will crap out in less than ten years.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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RRP said:pgprescott said:I've been told they are all crap now. Designed to barely last the warranty period. I wouldn't overspend because even the high dollar ones will crap out in less than ten years.
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ColtsFan said:I suggest staying away from big box retailer models. Find a Plumbing vendor/wholesaler and get a quality model. Difference between lasting 5 years and lasting 15 years.
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Repiping is a PITA? With all the MAPP torches I see lighting lump you'd think a couple of y'all could actually use it to braze copper.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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NPHuskerFL said:With all the MAPP torches I see lighting lump you'd think a couple of y'all could actually use it to braze copper.
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NPHuskerFL said:Repiping is a PITA? With all the MAPP torches I see lighting lump you'd think a couple of y'all could actually use it to braze copper.
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The quality of all home related items have decreased because of HD and Lowes. HD sets the price point and leaves the manufacturers scrambling to turn a profit. That results in plastic bushing instead of metal, lower quality motors, cheaper finishes etc. The end result is that former best in class brands like Hunter sell a bunch of crap now. I saw this time and time again when I built a custom house back in 05. The good stuff is so ridiculously overpriced though. I remember buying bath sinks faucets for $400 each because I thought the $130 dollar ones were cheaply made. In retrospect, maybe it's better to buy the $130 faucets as the expensive ones probably wouldn't last three times longer.
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DoubleEgger said:The quality of all home related items have decreased because of HD and Lowes. HD sets the price point and leaves the manufacturers scrambling to turn a profit. That results in plastic bushing instead of metal, lower quality motors, cheaper finishes etc. The end result is that former best in class brands like Hunter sell a bunch of crap now. I saw this time and time again when I built a custom house back in 05. The good stuff is so ridiculously overpriced though. I remember buying bath sinks faucets for $400 each because I thought the $130 dollar ones were cheaply made. In retrospect, maybe it's better to buy the $130 faucets as the expensive ones probably wouldn't last three times longer.Two Large Eggs, 6 gal Cajun Fryer, and a MiniMax in Charlotte, NC - My New Table
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Ours was new when we moved in but it's nice they used shark bites for the plumbing. Will be easy to remove and re-pipe when I need to.
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We had ours replaced a couple of weeks ago. I have no idea what brand, but we like our plumber and trust his judgement.Flint, Michigan
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HofstraJet said:DoubleEgger said:The quality of all home related items have decreased because of HD and Lowes. HD sets the price point and leaves the manufacturers scrambling to turn a profit. That results in plastic bushing instead of metal, lower quality motors, cheaper finishes etc. The end result is that former best in class brands like Hunter sell a bunch of crap now. I saw this time and time again when I built a custom house back in 05. The good stuff is so ridiculously overpriced though. I remember buying bath sinks faucets for $400 each because I thought the $130 dollar ones were cheaply made. In retrospect, maybe it's better to buy the $130 faucets as the expensive ones probably wouldn't last three times longer.
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I was told that the higher length warranties on the water heaters is for contractors who purchase them for install and want less liability. The lower end water heaters are basically the same item with a lesser warranty. I bought the mid grade Rheem from HD and saved a couple hundred over the platinum series with a better warranty. Suits me just fine.
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Get a Rinnai tankless hot water system. You can thank me later.
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