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Another 'Bad Food For You' Alert But This One Tells Why
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Have to toss this in. Some lines from Woody Allen's "Sleeper."
Allen's character wakes up 200 years in the future.
"Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called "wheat germ, organic honey and tiger's milk."
Dr. Aragon: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?
Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
Dr. Melik: Incredible. "
I've always kept that in the back of my mind. As we currently understand, fresh lard is health food. I'm still awaiting the all hot fudge diet...
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DieselkW said:...
I have not touched white sugar since, I put honey in my coffee. ...“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Farmers markets aren't like that where I am. I live in rual Ontario between Windsor and Toronto.
I can go to 3 farmers markets within a 10min drive from my house. Two of those market have family farms selling products that I know the families personally from high school and church. The rest have farms within an hour of my house.
Has the produce been sprayed and raised with chemical fertilizer? Yes. Am I worried about that ? No. I'm more concerned with going to the store and buying something labled product of (name a country that's not Canada or USA). Why u ask? I know the guide lines that our farmers have to follow and even what chemicals are available for them to use and know that ones that have been outlawed here are still used in places like Mexico or south American. -
"..It’s planted grown harvested & consumed all within those 2 miles, probably the least strain on the environment I can throw in on; something I find important & believe would be good if everyone had this option (read option, not requirement).."
You simply don't understand the 'food justice' movement in 'food wastelands' (ask FredFlinstone in Flint, MI) or how your tax dollar MUST make up for same due to the inequalities that YOU fostered (few do). The latter is a REQUIREMENT not an "option" for those even a few feet farther from your favorite farm than you.
"..Now, if you’re telling me ‘Pete’ has colluded with other local farmers to gouge me on the price of a tomato, I couldn’t dispute it any more than you could prove it..."
I can prove it..yet the problem is that people with enough money to buy that tomato could care less (ironically) if the family who can't...can't. These 'intellectuals' desire that their local farm markets be free of the 'riff raff' present in every other farm market around the globe and that the look/feel (pricing) of those newly minted markets (built of late) reflect this. Getting rid of those (which they effectively do by limiting the availability of free 'coupons') 'peons' propping up vendors with their free food (courtesy of you and I) will eventually happen to necessarily reduce unwanted mingling of the classes. The giveaway programs will be simply eliminated. Yet they needed those poor souls to hawk these high-priced venues in the first place; where everybody can feel good about 'buying local'...yet not necessarily shopping beside those same local 'personalities'.
"..and believe everyone should maintain the right to choose what they consume, not trying to foist my beliefs on anyone..."
...except for those poor bastards who can't afford to consume...due to a perverted publicly funded political belief system which rewards the more monied few..at the expense of the majority.
"Pete" isn't part of the problem here as he owns his own farm and only gloms off of a relatively smaller portion of the agricultural giveaways/subsidies that his larger farm friends enjoy as well (which few other businesses of his size do).
It's those perverting small farming at this moment while using (fixed) markets to accomplish their social/political goals at the same time.
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Eggzellent said:"..It’s planted grown harvested & consumed all within those 2 miles, probably the least strain on the environment I can throw in on; something I find important & believe would be good if everyone had this option (read option, not requirement).."
You simply don't understand the 'food justice' movement in 'food wastelands' (ask FredFlinstone in Flint, MI) or how your tax dollar MUST make up for same due to the inequalities that YOU fostered (few do). The latter is a REQUIREMENT not an "option" for those even a few feet farther from your favorite farm than you.
happy in the hut
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No chips on either shoulder here (only information; take it or leave it).
"Everyone" cannot possibly have the "option" of what you enjoy every day down at Pete's Farm if Pete isn't competing with everybody else on the planet to provide you that carrot.
That's simply a fact which I 'tried' to illustrate after your tying that carrot in to 'Monsanto' and every other farmer in between (the similarities aren't any closer than Pete's Farm to the rest of the community's ability to buy if from him vs Walmart).
You might have 5,000 posts..yet accusing somebody of 'drinking' when they simply offer an opinion contrary to yours?..not cool. -
CanadianAnvil said:Has the produce been sprayed and raised with chemical fertilizer? Yes. Am I worried about that ? No. I'm more concerned with going to the store and buying something labled product of (name a country that's not Canada or USA). Why u ask? I know the guide lines that our farmers have to follow and even what chemicals are available for them to use and know that ones that have been outlawed here are still used in places like Mexico or south American.
You know or get to know the vendors and make choices which may or may not enable that vendor to 'make it' should others feel the same.
It's not very complicated if you leave the 'social justice' aspect out disguised as anything but. -
I don't know you from Adam much less care how many posts you or I have, go back and re-read your aggressive and accusatory language which led to my question.
As for the fact that not everyone has the option to buy what I buy, what does that have to do with anything? When was I appointed the responsible party to put good food on your table? Do I also owe you a car?
happy in the hut
West Chester Pennsylvania -
Darby_Crenshaw said:i understand the argument. But i'm not entirely sure that the only reason a truly ripe local tomato is more expensive than a supermarket tomato is due to some socialist price-fixed anti-freemarket agenda.
I tend to not be an extremist in either regard on most things. Kinda trying to see both sides.
Both sides (on most issues) can get a little nutty. -
Eggzellent said:CanadianAnvil said:Has the produce been sprayed and raised with chemical fertilizer? Yes. Am I worried about that ? No. I'm more concerned with going to the store and buying something labled product of (name a country that's not Canada or USA). Why u ask? I know the guide lines that our farmers have to follow and even what chemicals are available for them to use and know that ones that have been outlawed here are still used in places like Mexico or south American.
You know or get to know the vendors and make choices which may or may not enable that vendor to 'make it' should others feel the same.
It's not very complicated if you leave the 'social justice' aspect out disguised as anything but.
All this talk about food is moot cuz in a few decades we'll all be likely to be ingesting just Soylent or Huel or the like instead of real food anyway.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
'..It must bother you greatly that the whole world doesn't conform to your Libertarian wet dream..."
'Again'...1,422 posts...and an unfettered desire to insult (yet) another forum member over...food.
Zippylip:
You may believe that politicians are "indistinguishable" in terms of party affiliation and receive plenty of agreement.
..yet it only takes 'one' member of any community to question what all others dare not..should you dare! (this can be applied to present/future benefits for an older generation that your grandchildren can simply not afford as well). -
I keep waiting for astronaut food in a tube should be very interesting to try to smoke!
In all honesty, I hope things simmer down here, not worth bickering over who is responsible for the inefficiencies of markets.DFW - 1 LGBE & Happy to Adopt More... -
Eggzellent said:'..It must bother you greatly that the whole world doesn't conform to your Libertarian wet dream..."
'Again'...1,422 posts...and an unfettered desire to insult (yet) another forum member over...food.
Zippylip:
You may believe that politicians are "indistinguishable" in terms of party affiliation and receive plenty of agreement.
..yet it only takes 'one' member of any community to question what all others dare not..should you dare! (this can be applied to present/future benefits for an older generation that your grandchildren can simply not afford as well).“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Great mid-day 'entertainment'. Reminds 'me' of a Maury Povich show.
Now, I have 'work' to do.
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nolaegghead said:Great mid-day 'entertainment'. Reminds 'me' of a Maury Povich show.
Now, I have 'work' to do.
Spring "Doze In... Doze Out... Doze In... Doze Out..." Chicken
Spring Texas USA
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Spring Chicken said:nolaegghead said:Great mid-day 'entertainment'. Reminds 'me' of a Maury Povich show.
Now, I have 'work' to do.
Spring "Doze In... Doze Out... Doze In... Doze Out..." Chicken
Spring Texas USALagrange, GA LBGE -
nolaegghead said:Great mid-day 'entertainment'. Reminds 'me' of a Maury Povich show.
Now, I have 'work' to do.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk
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