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vegetarians are killing the planet
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fishlessman
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"Eating lettuce is over three times worse in greenhouse gas emissions than eating bacon"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151214130727.htm
fukahwee maine
you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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Climate change is our biggest threat you know....
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was just thinking we should mob up and find these planet killers and throw rotten veggies at themfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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Maybe Obama will appoint a veggie czar
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I see the original full article is only available for pay, and at least some of the supporting info is by subscription. But from the abstracts that were available, my guess is that the problem is that lettuce, celery and other leafy greens are mostly water with almost no calories per pound. So if you are buying stuff grown in CA, as most veg at the market are, the "carbon footprint" includes the shipping and refrigeration it takes to get them to market a few thousand miles away.
Other things I've read indicate that other than spices, and grains, there isn't much that makes real sense to ship across continents or oceans.
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gdenby said:I see the original full article is only available for pay, and at least some of the supporting info is by subscription. But from the abstracts that were available, my guess is that the problem is that lettuce, celery and other leafy greens are mostly water with almost no calories per pound. So if you are buying stuff grown in CA, as most veg at the market are, the "carbon footprint" includes the shipping and refrigeration it takes to get them to market a few thousand miles away.
Other things I've read indicate that other than spices, and grains, there isn't much that makes real sense to ship across continents or oceans.“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
fishlessman said:
"Eating lettuce is over three times worse in greenhouse gas emissions than eating bacon"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151214130727.htm#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
I can't even imagine being a vegetarian. That's got to be a sad life.
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I'm with you SGH. I'm an old country boy, and a meal without meat just isn't a meal in my book. And a belated Happy Birthday to you with thanks for all you contribute to this site.
Tommy
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Vegetarian is the Indian word for dad hunter
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Many years ago, I was a vegetarian for maybe a year. Not a vegan. Egg, milk, cheese, no prob. Lots of good food available, but usually much harder to make tasty. When people point to Indian vegetarian food (which certainly features butter and cheese), they often forget India produces huge amounts of herbs and spices. And they are not far from "the spice islands." No pepper or nutmeg or cinammon or saffron... growing around me.
FWIW, Roman legionnaires marched on bread and water, and would protest having to eat too much meat.
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Heh - I know one of the authors of the study."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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Heard this on the radio during my commute. Pretty reveling.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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I suspect a key factor is that the calculations were based on calories."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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Correct @JohnInCarolina I remember them stating it was based off of caloric intake. So a 1/4 field of lettuce to a 15# slab of bacon. Seems like a reasonable & fair comparison.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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Not to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol is a solution...
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She's real lucky he wasn't "carrying" and felt threatened by this oxygen thief and poor excuse for a human being.
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HeavyG said:gdenby said:I see the original full article is only available for pay, and at least some of the supporting info is by subscription. But from the abstracts that were available, my guess is that the problem is that lettuce, celery and other leafy greens are mostly water with almost no calories per pound. So if you are buying stuff grown in CA, as most veg at the market are, the "carbon footprint" includes the shipping and refrigeration it takes to get them to market a few thousand miles away.
Other things I've read indicate that other than spices, and grains, there isn't much that makes real sense to ship across continents or oceans.
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@Davec433 That would've been a very short conversation had that been myself and that (dare I say) lady. She has big brass one's I'll give her that.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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Davec433 said:
I can't call her a b!tch, that would be insulting to all female dogs.
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California is killing itself with self inflicted wounds! With all those natural resources it's a shame. I grew up in Glen Ellen and the vineyards brought in a lot of tourism.
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