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Egg not heating.

My L BGE has not been heating up as it should.  The first time I assumed it was because I needed to clean it out.  So I cleaned it out and used it again and same issue.  Even with the vents wide open it would not get above 350.  I am now thinking I may have starters and/or charcoal that is damp.  The thing is I store it in my shed which where I have stored it for the past 18 months with no issues.  Still, something has to be holding my egg back.  Suggestions or thoughts?
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 25,887
    is the opening at the base of your firebox lined up with the bottom vent? Sounds like it is not - that makes a BIG difference!
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Another. Culprit can be too much shake / dust in the fire box. If you get a poorly handled bag, the dust can choke the air flow dramatically. The egg is very simple air in bottom, air out top, with the fire in between. Check the alignment and then your fuel / airflow. There is nothing more to it. 
  • Bwill
    Bwill Posts: 102
    Lose the starters
    What do you suggest?  I am not a fan of the electric starter.
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,023
    edited December 2015
    Bwill said:
    Lose the starters
    What do you suggest?  I am not a fan of the electric starter.
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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 32,322
    Fuel, a fire source and air-that's it.  If you have good air flow and good (?) fuel then once you get it lit-you should be good to go.  Is your dome thermo calibrated?
    If the air flow is good and you can get one or more starter cubes going then it has to be your lump-at least based on what's presented.  If you have been cooking with lump for at least 18 months and nothing else has changed then  that points more toward the lump. You will get it sorted out.
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  • Little Steven
    Little Steven Posts: 354
    edited December 2015
    Map torch. The whole thing is air flow, fuel and ignition. Accurate thermo too. If your airflow is blocked you won't get heat. Try using less lump till you get the hang of it. I use a map torch but the oiled paper towels will work also. When I light I usually leave the dome open for a while. This lets the fire establish without heating the ceramic too much. When using any torch wear safety glasses
  • Bwill
    Bwill Posts: 102
    Is it easy to light?  I looked at something similar that used a 20 lb. tank and decided it was just too much.
  • Yes. A hand held torch and small cylinder will last a year or more
  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    The ignition source is definitely not the issue. There are many ways to light the lump and they all work fine. That is another issue and it is strictly an issue of convenience and personal preference based upon your comfort level with certain ignition sources and the time constraints among other variables. Once the lump is ignited we are on to this issue. 
  • The ignition source is definitely not the issue. There are many ways to light the lump and they all work fine. That is another issue and it is strictly an issue of convenience and personal preference based upon your comfort level with certain ignition sources and the time constraints among other variables. Once the lump is ignited we are on to this issue. 

    I find the starters don't work with the dome closed
  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207
    It's either lump or air flow. I'd lean towards air flow. +1 on ignition should not even enter the conversation except as a matter of preference. 

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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    The ignition source is definitely not the issue. There are many ways to light the lump and they all work fine. That is another issue and it is strictly an issue of convenience and personal preference based upon your comfort level with certain ignition sources and the time constraints among other variables. Once the lump is ignited we are on to this issue. 

    I find the starters don't work with the dome closed
    What works with the dome closed? Leave it open for a few minutes then close. A torch works very poorly with the lid closed as well. Fwiw, you can use them with the lid closed, it just takes longer due to diminished air flow. 
  • take the daisy off completely.  my daisy, wide open, will usually hold the egg to 400 or so, unless i have new lump (when it seems to take off regardless)


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  • Theophan
    Theophan Posts: 2,654
    Lose the starters ... I find the starters don't work with the dome closed
    How you start the fire has nothing to do with how hot the fire will get.  Starter blocks are all I've ever used, and I have no problem getting a fire as hot as I want.  And I always close the dome (leaving the vents wide open at first).

    Changing how he lights the fire won't help @Bwill with his problem.

    @Bwill, you said you cleaned it out, but you didn't say whether you removed the fire box or not.  There was a time when I couldn't get a really hot fire, either, and it turned out that a whole lot of ash had built up between the fire box and the wall of the Egg itself, cutting down on the air flow.  If you haven't tried that, yet, take out the fire box and fire ring and get rid of any ash there.  Then put them back, carefully aligning the main opening in the fire box with the opening of the vent, and then putting back the fire ring as well.  That may make a difference.
  • what steven is saying is that the startes have a way of snuffing out if they do not get a lot of airflow.  if you are using starters, and there is white smoke, then they have snuffed out and are merely glowing, and that will take a very long time to hit temperature

    starters need to be fully on fire, and burned away, before you should shut the dome.  that means for a low and slow cook you usually only want one starter, and often broken up into smaller pieces.  that will allow you to let them flame out completely, but the fir won't be too large because of the fewer starters used

    for a higher heat cook, just leave the dome open so the starters can rage a bit more.  they burn pretty clear, so if they aren't, if there's a lot of white smoke, they went out
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  • what steven is saying is that the startes have a way of snuffing out if they do not get a lot of airflow.  if you are using starters, and there is white smoke, then they have snuffed out and are merely glowing, and that will take a very long time to hit temperature

    starters need to be fully on fire, and burned away, before you should shut the dome.  that means for a low and slow cook you usually only want one starter, and often broken up into smaller pieces.  that will allow you to let them flame out completely, but the fir won't be too large because of the fewer starters used

    for a higher heat cook, just leave the dome open so the starters can rage a bit more.  they burn pretty clear, so if they aren't, if there's a lot of white smoke, they went out
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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Is this a conversation with yourself?
  • You're picking on me today man. I apologise profusely
  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    You're picking on me today man. I apologise profusely
    Sorry. Carry on. 
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  • Begger
    Begger Posts: 569
    I don't see lighting it as an issue, either.
    BUT, I DO use the Weber Chimney to great effect.   And nothing wrong with those wax starters.   I use ONE in the bottom, pile on the charcoal and light from the bottom.   In a very short time, it's a blazin'
  • You're picking on me today man. I apologise profusely
    Sorry. Carry on. 
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  • RRP
    RRP Posts: 25,887

    I'm the one that says sorry OK.
    And I'm the one still saying thanks, Steven - See I'm still using  those bamboo skewers you sent me years and years ago!

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  • Steve753
    Steve753 Posts: 140
    I don't agree in losing the starters. I use one Weber Starter Cub in the center of the lump (one of the BGE Chefs uses this method as well). I is inexpensive and works very well.

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  • Steve753 said:
    I don't agree in losing the starters. I use one Weber Starter Cub in the center of the lump (one of the BGE Chefs uses this method as well). I is inexpensive and works very well.


    Damn, I'm not very popular tonight. I thought I knew something but I will sit in the corner and be very quiet now.

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  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
    Steve753 said:
    I don't agree in losing the starters. I use one Weber Starter Cub in the center of the lump (one of the BGE Chefs uses this method as well). I is inexpensive and works very well.


    Damn, I'm not very popular tonight. I thought I knew something but I will sit in the corner and be very quiet now.
    I'm sorry, carry on. Oh wait, you're the sorry one. Jk