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OT: No I did not shoot Village Idot. Yet!

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  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,458
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    Mods ain't playing this morning!
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  • stlcharcoal
    stlcharcoal Posts: 4,684
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    HeavyG said:
    nolaegghead said:
    Dobie said:
    Buy lots of ammo now while its cheap, election will drive up prices again. 22 is still priced ridiculously from the last scare. If Hillary gets in, there will be another panic. 
    I love watching the idiots that believe all this nonsense.
    I enjoyed it also until I wanted to buy a couple thousand rounds of .22 for my plinkers.

    What's funnier is that Obama has not (and will not) done one single thing to tighten any rules regarding gun ownership. Just the opposite actually. He has signed two laws that actually expanded peoples rights to carry firearms.

    The whole panic was just a clever marketing scheme by the NRA and gun and ammo manufacturers to boost sales and to their credit it worked out amazingly well for them.

    You'll see the same marketing scheme take effect if Hillary even gets the Democratic nomination - won't even have to wait to see if she is actually elected Prez. :)


    Well he did *try* to push regulations further and talked it up so on national TV.  With the media behind it, you better believe the common public was going to believe it. But they got greedy and went for too much, thus the legislation died.  I believe the panic was founded there.  But any organization or business, would be negligent to their share/stake/membership holders if they didn't try to capitalize on that opportunity (whether it was real or just perceived.)  I agree with you on the Hillary deal--it's going to start again if it hasn't already.  But with her running around talking about gun control you can't say it's the NRA or the gun companies making this up.  Unless you think they are making donations to get her to do it??  Doubtful, but that would be an interesting thesis to do for MBA grad school project.
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  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 14,627
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    Fear is an incredibly effective economic driver.  Incredibly lucrative if you're on the right side of it.
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  • stlcharcoal
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    slovelad said:
    thats the rockwood of ammo

    Thanks man!  That's one of the best compliments I've gotten.  That's some good stuff and it's a b!tch to find at a decent price.  Been wanting to load up ever since those results on the 9mm AmmoQuest series came out.
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  • nolaegghead
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    Realistically, there's a snowball's chance in hell that any existing ammo will be banned...Hillory, Bernie, Trump....doesn't matter.  They can't ban it.  Excluding the stuff that already is, whose ban is pushed primarily by police - Teflon bullets, other bullets that defeat armor like the FHN 5.7x28 - ZERO chance any ADDITIONAL ammo will be banned.  ZERO. 
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  • Mickey
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    FearlessTheEggNoob said:
    You might want to check out one of the local IDPA matches once you're completely comfortable with the operation of your 9mm. Haven't gone in a couple years myself, but Mike ran a very welcoming group and it was surprisingly affordable. (in the beginning! lol ) If you've never gone before, expect to uncover a few flaws in your game plan. -that's a good thing.

    http://www.texastactical.net/

    That looks good and close. 
    Will check out. 
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Plus a couple Pit Boss Pellet Smokers.   

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  • stlcharcoal
    stlcharcoal Posts: 4,684
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    nolaegghead said:
    Realistically, there's a snowball's chance in hell that any existing ammo will be banned...Hillory, Bernie, Trump....doesn't matter.  They can't ban it.  Excluding the stuff that already is, whose ban is pushed primarily by police - Teflon bullets, other bullets that defeat armor like the FHN 5.7x28 - ZERO chance any ADDITIONAL ammo will be banned.  ZERO. 
    Yeah I never thought they would be successful with the M855 green-tip "ban" that circulated earlier this year.  ATF claims it was a "publishing mistake", but either way a panic buy ensued on those things.

    The only thing I can see getting banned easily is imports, whether guns or ammo.  Lot easier to go after those since it can be on so many levels.

    The one other thing I'll throw out there is the availability of lead.  Two years ago the EPA ordered the last lead smelting plant in the US be closed.  It was in Herculaneum, MO--about 30 minutes south of St. Louis.  Had everyone freaked out.  Lead prices had spiked about 10-15 yrs ago, but have dropped and are holding steady or decreasing even after that plant closed.  Hopefully people continue to recycle because with other countries being our only source for new lead, that could become an issue.....not just for the consumer, but for LEO and military.  Who knows, maybe with Li-ion battery technology, we'll have handheld phasers and rail guns by the time we run out of lead.
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  • nolaegghead
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    80% of the lead produced from ore in the United States went into batteries, and lead acid batteries have a 98% recycle rate.  The last lead smelting (from ore) plant closed but they continue a recycling operation.  Lead is very abundant - also is a byproduct of copper mining and other minerals. 

    Newer battery chemistry is replacing lead, increasingly.  There will never be a lead shortage.  And it is a cheap international commodity.

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2014/apr/25/chain-email/lead-bullets-will-have-come-overseas-after-epa-clo/

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  • Davec433
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    stlcharcoal said:
    nolaegghead said:
    Realistically, there's a snowball's chance in hell that any existing ammo will be banned...Hillory, Bernie, Trump....doesn't matter.  They can't ban it.  Excluding the stuff that already is, whose ban is pushed primarily by police - Teflon bullets, other bullets that defeat armor like the FHN 5.7x28 - ZERO chance any ADDITIONAL ammo will be banned.  ZERO. 
    Yeah I never thought they would be successful with the M855 green-tip "ban" that circulated earlier this year.  ATF claims it was a "publishing mistake", but either way a panic buy ensued on those things.

    The only thing I can see getting banned easily is imports, whether guns or ammo.  Lot easier to go after those since it can be on so many levels.

    The one other thing I'll throw out there is the availability of lead.  Two years ago the EPA ordered the last lead smelting plant in the US be closed.  It was in Herculaneum, MO--about 30 minutes south of St. Louis.  Had everyone freaked out.  Lead prices had spiked about 10-15 yrs ago, but have dropped and are holding steady or decreasing even after that plant closed.  Hopefully people continue to recycle because with other countries being our only source for new lead, that could become an issue.....not just for the consumer, but for LEO and military.  Who knows, maybe with Li-ion battery technology, we'll have handheld phasers and rail guns by the time we run out of lead.
    I agree with banning or at least moving away from lead in bullets. I was at Fort Bragg for 10 years with the firing ranges constantly in use the rainfalls got to go somewhere and it'll probably make it into your tap water.
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  • nolaegghead
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    The problem with lead replacements is cost.  Tin, tungsten, silver, gold, platinum and a bunch of other metals have the density and less toxicity but they're expensive.
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  • SGH
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    Buffalo test.....

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

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  • SGH
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    Went the 

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

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  • DoubleEgger
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    I went to the range last weekend for the first time in years to shoot my SW .357. Here's 15 yards. Like riding a bike...


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  • DoubleEgger
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    The Kimber wasn't too shabby either at 15 yards 

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  • FearlessTheEggNoob
    FearlessTheEggNoob Posts: 888
    edited November 2015
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    nolaegghead said:
    Realistically, there's a snowball's chance in hell that any existing ammo will be banned...Hillory, Bernie, Trump....doesn't matter.  They can't ban it.  Excluding the stuff that already is, whose ban is pushed primarily by police - Teflon bullets, other bullets that defeat armor like the FHN 5.7x28 - ZERO chance any ADDITIONAL ammo will be banned.  ZERO. 
    So what happened to 7n6?

    Gittin' there...
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  • luckyboy
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    I remember the time my wife got on my back about my guns, I had enough and so I took her to gun shop and told her find one test fire it and that i'd buy the one she liked, after test firing a glock 17, she said that'd the one.I got it for her.
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  • dogfoot
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    Try these guys, good price and easy to deal with   https://levelupgunclub.com/

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  • Mickey
    Mickey Posts: 19,674
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    DoubleEgger said:
    The Kimber wasn't too shabby either at 15 yards 

    Happy with that at 3 yards. Your .357 not too shabby!
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Plus a couple Pit Boss Pellet Smokers.   

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  • flynnbob
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    I haven't posted in a while due to travel but the wife and daughter are very concerned about safety and the proper handgun.  Any pointers are appreciated.
    Milton, GA.
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  • Mickey
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    flynnbob said:
    I haven't posted in a while due to travel but the wife and daughter are very concerned about safety and the proper handgun.  Any pointers are appreciated.
    I can pocket carry the Sig P238 in a holster made for pocket carry that doesn't print at all. This for travel and wherThe larger HK is for the house 
    Salado TX & 30A  FL: Egg Family: 3 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max when they came out (I'm good for now). Plus a couple Pit Boss Pellet Smokers.   

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  • Braggart
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    As a Canucker, all I can say is "wow".  

    Not being negatively judgemental, not even close.  Just saying that up here, we are 15 minutes away from having to register our slingshots and steak knives. 
    Large BGE
    MMax BGE
    Weber gasser
    3 Dogs
    No neighbours 
    Living in Canada's bush
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