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THEBuckeye said:I'm curious what wiped out the dino's. @nolaegghead ?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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I've heard it stated that even if I live my entire lifetime totally obsessed with carbon footprints - this doesn't equal one single minute of one single factory in India.
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And there I was thinking Noah had herpetophobia....
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JohnInCarolina said:THEBuckeye said:I'm curious what wiped out the dino's. @nolaegghead ?
Whew! I thought it had something to do with Fred Flintstone. Very relieved, he's a good contributor.
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JohnInCarolina said:THEBuckeye said:I'm curious what wiped out the dino's. @nolaegghead ?
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blasting said:JohnInCarolina said:THEBuckeye said:I'm curious what wiped out the dino's. @nolaegghead ?
Whew! I thought it had something to do with Fred Flintstone. Very relieved, he's a good contributor.______________________________________________I love lamp.. -
Fred19Flintstone said:There hasn't been one shred of proof other than computer models that man made global warming is occurring.
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Like my deep belief in Heaven, I don't need to have someone prove that Climate Change exists. I believe it does, and therefore nothing you can say can prove me wrong
this stuff is easy when you dismiss logic and science for 'belief'. I don't have to even argue. I just know I'm right, because they are my 'beliefs'. And people can't question my beliefs, because that's just not right, right?
so much easier this way.
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I'm actually looking forward to Climate change legislation. Higher utility bills and higher unemployment all of which the current admin will get a pass on like nothing happened.
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Dave, I found a video that reminded me of you about someone arguing against the "atheist theory of evolution". If it's not you, sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIi0S0a1ubo
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Davec433 said:I'm actually looking forward to Climate change legislation. Higher utility bills and higher unemployment all of which the current admin will get a pass on like nothing happened."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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Davec433 said:I'm actually looking forward to Climate change legislation. Higher utility bills and higher unemployment all of which the current admin will get a pass on like nothing happened.
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Davec433 said:theyolksonyou said:Shoulda saved it for Friday
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nolaegghead said:Davec433 said:I'm actually looking forward to Climate change legislation. Higher utility bills and higher unemployment all of which the current admin will get a pass on like nothing happened.
The other side of the equation you refer to in your second point is supply. If supply exceeds demand it goes down. That is exactly what we have experienced. Again we must consider all sides of the issue of we are trying to be accurate. -
NASA is part to blame! They have holes punched in the Atmosphere from all the Space Junk they have sent up. And all the Hydrogen Gas and other Chemicals they use to send this stuff into the air that people just love to comment about the pretty plume in the sky. The soil is so contaminated and the wildlife and fish for miles around are affected. I can't even pee off my doorstep without getting in trouble from the Government.
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JohnInCarolina said:Fred19Flintstone said:There hasn't been one shred of proof other than computer models that man made global warming is occurring.Flint, Michigan
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pgprescott said:nolaegghead said:Davec433 said:I'm actually looking forward to Climate change legislation. Higher utility bills and higher unemployment all of which the current admin will get a pass on like nothing happened.
The other side of the equation you refer to in your second point is supply. If supply exceeds demand it goes down. That is exactly what we have experienced. Again we must consider all sides of the issue of we are trying to be accurate.
To the supply and demand issue, all things equal, having more efficient infrastructure, vehicles, appliances, houses, etc, lowers demand. Now OPEC could cut supply and drive the prices up, but they want to burn the Russians and retard the ability of alternate oil (such as the shale fields, fracking, etc.) and alternate energy which relies on a higher oil price or subsidies to develop.
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Fred19Flintstone said:JohnInCarolina said:Fred19Flintstone said:There hasn't been one shred of proof other than computer models that man made global warming is occurring.
Do you have anything intelligent to add here, or are you just going to keep pulling stuff out of your ass?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
EGGjlmh said:In the 70's I remember hearing we were about to enter another ice age.
We were in middle Georgia, and he was describing heavy snowfall in June and July and freezing temps year around. My classmates were freaking out and on the verge of tears.
I finally spoke up and told them they were crazy to believe that crap. My teacher was furious with me and took it personal. I didn't care. I knew it was crap.Louisville, GA - 2 Large BGE's -
Fred, I would tend to think agreeing with experts (climatologists, physicists, and other people that have been studying the data of a very specific scientific field and by our society start doing what everyone's been saying for decades - stop being so dependent on crude oil (it got us more mixed up in the middle east if you recall) isn't politicizing it.
I would argue that going against the advice of 98 out of every 100 of those very scientists and cherry picking data and junk science by non-science people to pursue a political agenda pushed by big business lobbyists, is by definition politicizing it.
I know you probably disagree. But you are Fred.
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@johnkitchens We were/are, that's a fact. However, the CO2 levels have gotten so high and the subsequent warming has been creating a detectable reversal of that effect. I'm pretty sure this is even in Al's presentation.
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JohnInCarolina said:Davec433 said:I'm actually looking forward to Climate change legislation. Higher utility bills and higher unemployment all of which the current admin will get a pass on like nothing happened.Large BGE & mini stepchild & a KJ Jr.The damp PNW
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DoubleEgger said:Wednesday is the new Friday...
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nolaegghead said:@johnkitchens We were/are, that's a fact. However, the CO2 levels have gotten so high and the subsequent warming has been creating a detectable reversal of that effect. I'm pretty sure this is even in Al's presentation."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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nolaegghead said:pgprescott said:nolaegghead said:Davec433 said:I'm actually looking forward to Climate change legislation. Higher utility bills and higher unemployment all of which the current admin will get a pass on like nothing happened.
The other side of the equation you refer to in your second point is supply. If supply exceeds demand it goes down. That is exactly what we have experienced. Again we must consider all sides of the issue of we are trying to be accurate.
To the supply and demand issue, all things equal, having more efficient infrastructure, vehicles, appliances, houses, etc, lowers demand. Now OPEC could cut supply and drive the prices up, but they want to burn the Russians and retard the ability of alternate oil (such as the shale fields, fracking, etc.) and alternate energy which relies on a higher oil price or subsidies to develop.
Just the the threat of drilling in Alaska would easily retard those actions. I am for efficiency as long as it remains reasonable. No issue here. Also this is why we need to lead in the Mid East to have influence.
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@pgprescott I presume you haven't heard about Royal Dutch Shell drilling in Alaska. They deemed it not economically feasible at this time and, after drilling some test wells, abandoned working their leases.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2015/08/17/shell-arctic-alaska/31890239/
On the jobs, no, you're wrong. I agree with you about all crony capitalism, however. That's been going on with other energy companies for ages, yes, even those that drill for oil. So I'm glad you're against those too.
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nolaegghead said:@pgprescott I presume you haven't heard about Royal Dutch Shell drilling in Alaska. They deemed it not economically feasible at this time and, after drilling some test wells, abandoned working their leases.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2015/08/17/shell-arctic-alaska/31890239/
On the jobs, no, you're wrong. I agree with you about all crony capitalism, however. That's been going on with other energy companies for ages, yes, even those that drill for oil. So I'm glad you're against those too. -
Oil prices are dependent largely on the world economy, growth in China and OPEC.
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johnkitchens said:EGGjlmh said:In the 70's I remember hearing we were about to enter another ice age.
We were in middle Georgia, and he was describing heavy snowfall in June and July and freezing temps year around. My classmates were freaking out and on the verge of tears.
I finally spoke up and told them they were crazy to believe that crap. My teacher was furious with me and took it personal. I didn't care. I knew it was crap.
So the super smart scientists across the country were wrong in the 70's? But now the super duper smart scientists are right?Pretty funny stuff.
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