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elbee63
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I'm fairly new to the egg and have only smoked ribs a few times. Previously I've used wood chips but today used chunks for the first time. I used 3 hickory and 3 Apple chunks. I put 2 chunks in the bottom of the charcoal then got the dome temp to 250. Then put 4 more chunks on top of the charcoal then the plate setter and waited about 10 min and then the spares went on. I didn't foil them and it took about 4 hours. They turned out pretty good but I had no smoke ring and could hardly taste the smoke. Not sure what I did wrong. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Smoke rings are pretty hard to achieve on the egg. So don't be overly concerned about that. Sometimes conditions are just right and you get that pretty ring but most times not. You can't taste the smoke ring so I quit worrying with it. As far as your smoke taste, it sounds like you had the right amount of wood but maybe the chunks you added on top could have burnt off too fast. Maybe try mixing the same amount throughout the lump and see if that helps.-----------------------------------------analyze adapt overcome2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
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Agree w @Mattman3969 I rarely get a smoke ring. I think there needs to be more chemicals in the smoke like some nitrates. Maybe I'll throw some kingsford briquettes in a cook and see if that does it.Chicago, IL - Large and Small BGE - Weber Gasser and Kettle
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Ok, that makes me feel better. Thanks!
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I agree with @Mattman3969. Did you check the charcoal to ss if 5he wood chunks got used up, sometimes they don't depending how the fire spreads.
For some ring keep your meat as cold as possible even freezing for a short time just before you put the meat on the grill. That will allow a longer time for the smoke ring to form. A little celery salt will help but it has a strong flavour. -
You should have had more than enough smoke. I rarely use more than a handful of chips or equal volume of chunk.
Smoke rings only form while the meat is under 170F. If the meat is room temperature, and is thin like ribs, the surface will get over that temp pretty fast.
Smoke is deposited on the meat surface, and seeps inside some as long as the surface is only slightly moist. If the meat is too wet, the smoke just hits the water, and evaporates off as the water heats.
To improve both aspects, either rub the meat, and put directly into an Egg that is producing "good" smoke, i.e. blue and wispy, or rub and place uncovered back in 'fridge.
I suspect that your dome therm might have been a little off. At 250-ish, spares take more like 5 - 6 hours.
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Tinyfish said:I agree with @Mattman3969. Did you check the charcoal to ss if 5he wood chunks got used up, sometimes they don't depending how the fire spreads.
For some ring keep your meat as cold as possible even freezing for a short time just before you put the meat on the grill. That will allow a longer time for the smoke ring to form. A little celery salt will help but it has a strong flavour.Chicago, IL - Large and Small BGE - Weber Gasser and Kettle -
You might find this interesting.
http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/mythbusting_the_smoke_ring.html
I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!
MichaelCentral Connecticut -
Carolina Q said:You might find this interesting.
http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/mythbusting_the_smoke_ring.htmlLBGE - I like the hot stuff. The big dry San Joaquin Valley, Clovis, CA -
How are you prepping the ribs ? Are you pulling the skin off the back ? And are you using mustard prior to rub ? I'm not an expert but i think prep has a lot to do with it.
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Cherry wood also gives good color.
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I did remove the membrane and coat with mustard, rubbed and then refrigerated. I will try again though. Thank you all for your input. Now I am on to worrying about my first beef tenderloin I am doing this Friday. Fingers crossed!
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Pretty sure it's the lack of wood used in the egg. I have been learning to use a stick burner and I get a better smoke ring on a 45 minute pork tenderloin cook in the stick burner than I do on a 5 hour rib cook in the egg.
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I can get a nice smoke ring on the Egg, but not consistently. As long as it tastes good, that's all that counts. This rib end was rubbed with mustard and spices and cooked indirect over a couple of apple wood chunks.
South Jersey Pine Barrens. XL BGE , Assassin 24, Weber Kettle, CharBroil gasser, AMNPS -
Looks delish!
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Most posters are addressing the smoke ring, which looks cool but has nothing to do with flavor, but not the lack of smoky flavor, which you also mentioned.
What I've had the best results with, lately, for getting a more smoky flavor, is (a) no wood until just before putting the meat on. I light the fire in one central location, no plate setter yet, let the temp stabilize, usually around half an hour, when it seems ready to go, then I put 4-5 hickory chunks radially around the fire so as the fire spreads it'll move into them, then add the plate setter, let it get back up to temp, then add the meat. And (b) I find that I get more smoke at 250-275 than I do at 200, so I usually do low-and-slow cooks around there rather than around 200.
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If you want a smoke ring, and who doesn't, don't let your ribs come to room temp before putting them on[social media disclaimer: irony and sarcasm may be used in some or all of user's posts; emoticon usage is intended to indicate moderately jocular social interaction; the comments toward users, their usernames, and the real people (living or dead) that they refer to are not intended to be adversarial in nature; those replying to this user are entering into a tacit agreement that they are real-life or social-media acquaintances and/or have agreed to or tacitly agreed to perpetrate occasional good-natured ribbing between and among themselves and others]
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You can also get a "natural" smoke ring if you buy some celery powder (not salt) and mix that in your rubs.
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blind99 said:Agree w @Mattman3969 I rarely get a smoke ring. I think there needs to be more chemicals in the smoke like some nitrates. Maybe I'll throw some kingsford briquettes in a cook and see if that does it.
That being said, one trial means nothing - perhaps I was just lucky.Coleman, Texas
Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
"Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
YukonRon -
Best smoke is TBS (thin blue smoke ) .Smoke ring is like the cross hatch grill marks on a steak,looks only . Heavy white smoke and you end up with creosote. The best smoke is what you can barely see.
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