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Pizza Peel...wood or metal?

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  • jtcBoynton
    jtcBoynton Posts: 2,814
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    @lhousesoccer    Maintaining a temperature is not that hard.  Pork shoulder is quite flexible on how it is cooked.  You might want to review some of the discussions on it and then post a new discussion asking any questions you still have. 
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
    edited September 2015
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    Oh, heck.  I suppose this is good information.

    Ron (the unabashed Martha Stewart of the forum =) and gasket resource) and I have the same philosophy on peels.  Conveyor belt to put the pie on the stone:

    http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1145966/mega-peel-project-for-unadulterated-dough-transportation/p1

    Steel to pull it off.

    Wood to cut and serve.


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  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,164
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    From a health / sanitation perspective, your metal is going to much safer. Wood cutting boards are not considered safe in commercial settings. Bacteria can get in the pours of the wood, and can be difficult to sanitize. That said, your peel may not come in direct contact with as much risky items as a cutting board. (I still use a wood cutting board for slicing meats at my own risk). Is it a best practice? No it is not.

    Many opinions on here to consider, just know that stainless is a much better option from food handling perspective. I have a stainless peel for this reason.
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    @northGAcock metal is safer.  But in context of moving raw pizza dough and pulling cooked pizzas off a stone, I don't think food safety is an issue at all unless we're using our wood peels between pizza cooks to prep bear steaks.

    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food-safety/article/which-cutting-board-safest

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  • chrisc133
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    I use the Super Peel to launch and a metal peel to maneuver and take the pizza off.  I'm cooking on a Blackstone though...
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  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,164
    edited September 2015
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    @northGAcock metal is safer.  But in context of moving raw pizza dough and pulling cooked pizzas off a stone, I don't think food safety is an issue at all unless we're using our wood peels between pizza cooks to prep bear steaks.

    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food-safety/article/which-cutting-board-safest

    Nola, I would agree with that. I think there is some risk but to your point, minimal. There are proteins on pizza (Pepperoni or say an uncooked Italian Chix Sausage, etc.) that can come in contact with the peel. The peel may also come in contact with tainted surfaces, and can contaminate the wood. Having worked in the restaurant business, The health departments would not agree with the article you linked above. I may be overly cautious....but how I roll. At the end of the day, how we all handle our food and surrounding prep area, will deliver the safest environments. 
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,164
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    @nolaegghead - I looked a little further into this. Please know that I am not trying to challenge you personally. Dairy (cheese) is one of the biggest transporters of allergens. 

    Wondering about the best kind of cutting board to use to help avoid a food-related illness? Here's all the info you need.Cutting Board Basics: Wood Vs. PlasticNonporous surfaces like plastic or glass are easier to clean than wood and thus better in terms of food safety. Wood is naturally porous, and those tiny fissures and grooves in wooden cutting boards can harbor bacteria. Which is why cutting boards made of wood aren't allowed in commercial kitchens. That being the case, why use them at home?


    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,767
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    @nolaegghead - I looked a little further into this. Please know that I am not trying to challenge you personally. Dairy (cheese) is one of the biggest transporters of allergens. 

    Wondering about the best kind of cutting board to use to help avoid a food-related illness? Here's all the info you need.Cutting Board Basics: Wood Vs. PlasticNonporous surfaces like plastic or glass are easier to clean than wood and thus better in terms of food safety. Wood is naturally porous, and those tiny fissures and grooves in wooden cutting boards can harbor bacteria. Which is why cutting boards made of wood aren't allowed in commercial kitchens. That being the case, why use them at home?


    and butcher shops use wooden blocks all day every day. i believe with the resteraunts it just easier to keep cycling thru plastic boards sterilizing them in the washers throughout the day and just replacing them as they get grooved up.
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    You can run plastic through the dishwasher.  Wood can be sterilized with hydrogen peroxide.  I'm not really concerned about germs but I'll cut raw chicken on a plastic board and send that through the dishwasher.  Cheese is sterile IMO.  
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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
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    From a health / sanitation perspective, your metal is going to much safer. Wood cutting boards are not considered safe in commercial settings. Bacteria can get in the pours of the wood, and can be difficult to sanitize. That said, your peel may not come in direct contact with as much risky items as a cutting board. (I still use a wood cutting board for slicing meats at my own risk). Is it a best practice? No it is not.

    Many opinions on here to consider, just know that stainless is a much better option from food handling perspective. I have a stainless peel for this reason.
    Agreed about the relative safety of metal vs wood. I guess. Still, I have read that wooden cutting boards are at least as safe as plastic. Knives cut grooves in plastic so they're not so easy to keep clean after all. I use both and have never had a problem. Commercial places like the Skylight Inn in NC chop their Q all day, every day on a wooden block. And John Boos is still in business.

    As for peels, I have had my two wooden peels since the mid 90s. No metal. I build the pies on 'em, launch, retrieve, slice and serve. If they get oil or cheese on them I might even wash them after dinner. Might not. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I have yet to have any issue at all. In 20 years! I rarely wash my grids either. :rofl: 

    I didn't even know they made SS peels. All I've ever seen were Al or wood.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • bigalsworth
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    I use a steel peel and I also do all my prep and cooking on parchment paper so I don't have to worry about anything sticking.  I wanted to get a wood one for the cutting and serving but I cool 2+ pizzas every time I do pizza so I am not going to serve it on the peel anyway.  I don't think you would be unhappy with whatever choice you make.
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,767
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    You can run plastic through the dishwasher.  Wood can be sterilized with hydrogen peroxide.  I'm not really concerned about germs but I'll cut raw chicken on a plastic board and send that through the dishwasher.  Cheese is sterile IMO.  
    ive read before that with plastics washed with hot water and soap in the sink its still necessary to disinfect it with a bleach or hydrogen peroxide =) not much different than wood if you dont have the newer high temp dishwashers. i dont believe ive ever disinfected any board, even my outside fish cleaning board that just gets a rinse of fresh water and sometimes some acid rain =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • pgprescott
    pgprescott Posts: 14,544
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    Both. One wood and one metal. See reasons above. 
  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,164
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    I didn't even know they made SS peels. All I've ever seen were Al or wood.
    I stand corrected....you are correct with Aluminum (confusing my steels here late in the day)....I don't have a stainless peel.
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • Focker
    Focker Posts: 8,364
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    Plastic boards in commercial use, is solely $$$ driven.   
    Brandon
    Quad Cities
    "If yer gonna denigrate, familiarity with the subject is helpful."

  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,164
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    Focker said:
    Plastic boards in commercial use, is solely $$$ driven.   
    They are big into coloring boards. Green for vegi, red for beef etc.. Preventing cross contamination. Then the pot washers stacks them one on top of each other. Oh well.
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Commercial dishwashers will meet the NSF/ANSI Standard 184 guideline where those cutting boards will all be sterilized with heat.

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  • GlennM
    GlennM Posts: 1,365
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    I think the best combination is wood to launch, metal to retrieve and wood to serve


    In the bush just East of Cambridge,Ontario 
  • northGAcock
    northGAcock Posts: 15,164
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    Commercial dishwashers will meet the NSF/ANSI Standard 184 guideline where those cutting boards will all be sterilized with heat.

    LOL....I was referencing the dude or dudet washing them....not the machine. It's all good....and at the end of the day....the important question is.....How was the pizza?
    Ellijay GA with a Medium & MiniMax

    Well, I married me a wife, she's been trouble all my life,
    Run me out in the cold rain and snow
  • jad
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    don't mean to hijack the thread but what does everyone who uses a wooded peel use to clean them? when you cut the pie on the peel it tends to get a little messy especially when you have a lot of toppings....  yum :)
    Cary NC
  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
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    jad said:
    don't mean to hijack the thread but what does everyone who uses a wooded peel use to clean them? when you cut the pie on the peel it tends to get a little messy especially when you have a lot of toppings....  yum :)
    Dough scraper and/or one of those green and yellow scrubby sponges with soap and water if needed. Dry it immediately before too much water soaks in (though I think that's a losing battle). I don't always feel that washing is needed, just scraping. Frankly, from repeated washings, I'm surprised mine haven't warped or delaminated over the 20 years I've owned them, but both are as good as new.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

  • jtcBoynton
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    I don't cut on my peel. I like it to remain as smooth as possible. A smooth peel is better for launching pizza. 
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,487
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    I have both. Wood for pie into the egg. Metal to pull pie out. 

    Same here.  I never could get a raw pie to not stick to a metal one, and a metal peel works much better for slicing through any cheese that has overflowed onto the stone and begun carmelizing.
    Also, having two allows you to build a second pizza on the wood one, and add it to the Egg just as the previous one is coming off.  
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  • NDG
    NDG Posts: 2,431
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    Botch said:
    I have both. Wood for pie into the egg. Metal to pull pie out. 

    Same here.  I never could get a raw pie to not stick to a metal one, and a metal peel works much better for slicing through any cheese that has overflowed onto the stone and begun carmelizing.
    Also, having two allows you to build a second pizza on the wood one, and add it to the Egg just as the previous one is coming off.  
    +22 . . . ya need both!

    I have been very happy with my new Wood Peel, made of Acacia Wood, looks great hanging up when not in use:  http://www.amazon.com/Ironwood-Gourmet-Acacia-Wood-Pizza/dp/B0017SZT1E
    Columbus, OH

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