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Fire grate - Is brass okay?
New Orleans
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What purpose going from OEM CI to the brass floor drain? Is the CI one broken?LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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@NPHuskerFL Yes my oem cast Iron fire grate is warped and cracked. Either I use this brass drain grate or I buy a new grate from the Ace bge dealer. Why should I waste the money on a new one if this works just as good or maybe even better?I wish that nolaegghead was around because I feel confident that he would know the answer"I'm stupidest when I try to be funny"
New Orleans -
I only ask because mine broke and the dealer replaced at NC. You may be able to do the same. Or if ya don't care whatever, that's cool. Yes, brass should be fine if it is in fact solid brass.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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My vote is don't use it. It my have other alloys in it other than brass.San Angelo, texas
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@NPHuskerFL The owner of the Ace hardware store where I bought both my BGE's is very hard to deal with when it come to the warranty on the egg.. He said that the grate is not covered and wants me to buy a new one. In fact he didn't even want to cover my plate-setter when that broke. He made me go dig up my receipts from both bge's I bought even though he new darn good and well that I purchased them at his store. He eventually replaced my plate-setter."I'm stupidest when I try to be funny"
New Orleans -
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@TigerTony how old is your egg? Should be warranty for 1st yr. But, if your dealer is an A$$ Clown as you describe.
http://chemistry.about.com/od/elementfacts/a/copper.htmLBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL -
Short answer, Do not use it. Brass contains basically copper and zinc. Sometimes it is alloyed with lead for easy machining. It has a relatively low melting point of around 1650°F. Zinc used in galvanizing and lead are both bad for you. The melting point is likely of concern as you may find your new grate lying on the bottom of your Egg in a rather unique looking hardened puddle after a clean burn or pizza cook. If the dealer will not replace look into a High Que or other stainless replacement. It may be more expensive but should last forever.
A poor widows son.
See der Rabbits, Iowa -
Where's @nolaegghead when you need him?? >-Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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Great time to upgrade to a high que! Is this a large egg?XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
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@bettysnephew Thanks for the info! I believe you are correct. I'm not going to take any chances.High Que? I'll look into that, I'll search it now."I'm stupidest when I try to be funny"
New Orleans -
If you have a large or smaller. The high que grate is AWESOME. Much better airflow. More consistent low ans slows and higher highs!XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
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@Thatgrimguy Yes it's for my large egg. I just read about the High Que stainless grate and I'm ordering one now."I'm stupidest when I try to be funny"
New Orleans -
BTW if you have an XL, HiQue does not make a grid for it. I have heard of use of 2 Weber charcoal grates at 90° to each other. At the price for 2 of them, I would discard if they go bad and buy 2 more.
A poor widows son.
See der Rabbits, Iowa -
Agree. Which is why I referenced the link.bettysnephew said:Brass contains basically copper and zinc. Sometimes it is alloyed with lead for easy machining. It has a relatively low melting point of around 1650°F. Zinc used in galvanizing and lead are both bad for you. The melting point is likely of concern as you may find your new grate lying on the bottom of your Egg in a rather unique looking hardened puddle after a clean burn or pizza cook. Short answer, Do not use it. If the dealer will not replace look into a High Que or other stainless replacement
Properties: Copper has a melting point of 1083.4 +/- 0.2°C
Not suited for this application.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL -
NPHuskerFL While working in the food processing industry I saw an article in one of my maintenance trade magazines that California had tested numerous samples of brass from different sources and it had high contents of lead in most. Something like 20X Cali's accepted level if I recall correctly. I am glad @Tony_Tiger has chosen to do something else for his and his family's sake.
A poor widows son.
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I had edited the earlier post but, it still posted the unrevised version.LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
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Agreed. With this already. CI OR SS.bettysnephew said:NPHuskerFL While working in the food processing industry I saw an article in one of my maintenance trade magazines that California had tested numerous samples of brass from different sources and it had high contents of lead in most. Something like 20X Cali's accepted level if I recall correctly. I am glad @Tony_Tiger has chosen to do something else for his and his family's sake.
LBGE 2013 & MM 2014Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FANFlying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL -
Thanks guys! Looks like the High Que stainless is teh way to geaux.I'm going to polish the brass drain grate and hang it on teh fence for decoration"I'm stupidest when I try to be funny"
New Orleans -
Just saw this, seems you have your answer. An 8" two screw brass Zurn grate will retail in our area for as much as $70. Sell it and buy two High-Ques.The zinc component is typically not a good mix with high temps.Delta B.C. - Whiskey and steak, because no good story ever started with someone having a salad!
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@Skiddymarker < $70. you gotta be shitt'n me?!!!Never thought about selling it. I'm going to polish it up and list it on ebay or craigslist. What ever I get is better then nothing."I'm stupidest when I try to be funny"
New Orleans -
bettysnephew said:BTW if you have an XL, HiQue does not make a grid for it. I have heard of use of 2 Weber charcoal grates at 90° to each other. At the price for 2 of them, I would discard if they go bad and buy 2 more.
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I find no need to change my XL. The Holes in the standard XL grate are so much larger than the other grates it doesn't clog. I just poke a few holes with my trusty wiggle rod and life is good!XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
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Beside the chemical reaction aspect, it appears that there may be restricted air flow compared to a high-queue or BGE grate.XL BGE; Medium BGE; L BGE
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If you get the Weber grates, buy the thicker steel charcoal grates, not the cooking grids which are not as robust.#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
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Thatgrimguy said:I find no need to change my XL. The Holes in the standard XL grate are so much larger than the other grates it doesn't clog. I just poke a few holes with my trusty wiggle rod and life is good!A poor widows son.
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I believe they are just 3 inch drain covers. Ill check at the supplier on Monday.
Steve
Caledon, ON
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Just had my fire grate replaced under warranty. My dealer was also sort of difficult to deal with, so I went straight to the Mothership. Within 24 hours, I had an email from them to myself and the dealer detailing the course of action to be taken. Unfortunately, was also having the firering and firebox replaced so after getting the call that the replacement parts were in, I ran down there yesterday, broken pieces in hand, only to find that they had placed the correct orders for the firering and grate but plugged in the wrong size for the firebox. Didn't even think to take the 3 pieces of the firebox back home so I could actually cook the steaks I had bought for my bday. Doh! I may have to break out the gasser tonight. Not sure I remember how to light it.
I expect to have the firebox in a couple days.
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Before you invest in a High-Que (which I've used happily for a few years) suggest you check out theKick Ash Basket . The company's big selling point is being able to lift it out after a cook and shake off the burned ash, and also clean out the bottom of the bowl much easier while the lump/basket are removed; it does those things very well.However, the REALLY cool feature is this basket is large enough to cover the six holes in the fire bowl, and mine haven't clogged since getting it. I'm really happy with this thing!_____________
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@tigertony in my opinion the bigger issue here is the fact that your dealer is so difficult to deal with you don't even want to go in and get something for FREE. The metal fire grate has a 5 year warranty. I feel you should let the mothership know of your issues with the dealer and how he has treated you. Also you are not required to file a warranty clam at the dealer you purchased from. I have had a pizza stone, fire grate and in the process of having a fire ring replaced. All from a different dealer than I bought from. The dealer I bought from did nothing wrong in my case I just use a dealer that is more convenient for me. Please let us know what you find out from the mothership.
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