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Thinking of selling my BGE...

marrtmarrt Posts: 22
I've had a BGE for several years and, frankly, I'm not too satisfied with it.  The main reason is what I've taken to calling "The BGE taste."  This is, basically, that unique BGE "coal smoke flavor" that permeates everything I smoke on the BGE.  

Now, I'm fully aware of the need to burn off VOC's before putting on the meat.  I usually go through this process although it makes NO sense if I'm smoking something because there's no way to get a full bag of coals hot them cool the grill down to 250ish for smoking.  

Maybe it's the cheap brand of coal I use (Royal Oak) since I grab what's available to me locally.  Maybe it's my technique.  Maybe it's just the way it's supposed to taste but I don't like that flavor.  My neighbor has an SMC and his cooks tastes proper.  I was born and raised in NC so I know what proper tastes like.

Some more details:
I always use a BBQ Guru because it can get windy where I live
I use a chunk of hickory, cherry or apple for flavor 

Any ideas?
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  • flemsterflemster Posts: 247
    @Marrt
    Thats a shame to hear, but to each his own.  I love the flavors imparted by the charcoal and it is why I don't cook brisket in the oven.  For Indirects, I have found that "turbo" method has much less smoke ring and less smoke flavor than super low and slow.

    If you decide to sell, Im' sure you will find buyers.  If you live in TN, let me know and Ill come take it off your hands.
    Good Luck.
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  • henapplehenapple Posts: 10,842
    Try Rockwood
    There's no need to light the entire pile of lump and shouldn't.
    For 250 I light the center...tennis ball size and work up from there.

    I know people like RO but I'm telling you Rockwood burns as clean as anything I've tried. My wife isn't a huge smoke fan ...never complains.

    Good luck
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
  • RRPRRP Posts: 13,057
    Have you ever done a burn out? Since you said you like to smoke your food and obviously at a low 250 temp then your whole egg inside may have a very heavy build up of creosote and when that gets hot it can stink up your food pretty bad!
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
  • stlcharcoalstlcharcoal Posts: 881

    Don't sell it......do a clean burn and try some different charcoal.  I'm not into smokey food either and I cook Everything on my BGE's.

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  • marrtmarrt Posts: 22
    Don't get me wrong...I love wood smoke flavor.  Just not coal smoke flavor.  It literally tastes like the smoke from coal that's dug from the ground.  If you've ever smelled true coal (the rock) smoke, you know what I'm talking about.  

    It's not overwhelming but enough to ruin the flavor in my opinion.  Ether I'm doing something wrong or this is "just the way it is" for a BGE...which I find VERY had to believe since BGE's are often used in competition and this wouldn't cut it.  I must be doing something wrong.  
  • Carolina QCarolina Q Posts: 6,854
    Load up with lump, remove the DFMT, open the bottom vent and remove the thermometer. Let it burn until it goes out. Don't leave the platesetter in there so you'll have a better chance of cleaning the dome.

    I use RO all the time with no issues, but you might try a different brand. Clean it first though.
    Michael 
    Central Connecticut 

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  • Ladeback69Ladeback69 Posts: 701
    I've been using Royal Oak for the last few months and like the taste of my food with the smoke flavor. I don't get get as much smoke flavor when I'm cooking around 350° to 400° for chicken or at 700° for steaks, but I do when I go low and slow I do. I also let the lump go 15 minutes before I put wood on and give it at least another 15 minutes or more to get the better smoke out before meat goes on. I think RRP is right, you may have some build-up on the inside of the egg and you need to take it to maybe over 1000° for a while to clean it out. I would try that first before giving it up.
  • BYS1981BYS1981 Posts: 1,540
    royal oak is a smokey brand, try a neutral brand.
  • henapplehenapple Posts: 10,842
    There's lots of guys that use eggs for their comp cooker.. many on here. Travis wins his brisket comp every year again huge smokers. I do a clean burn occasionally but at 700 degrees. There's guys on here who never do one. I'm telling you.. try Rockwood. Maple Leaf burns clean also.
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
  • lousubcaplousubcap Posts: 4,869
    As mentioned above, clean burn it and change lump.  Rockwood and Wicked Good Weekend Warrior are about the most smoke-neutral lumps I have come across.   You can order Rockwood thru this site; http://www.firecraft.com/category/charcoal-wood .  I have also heard good things about Humphrey's charcoal but no personal eggsperience.  
    Louisville
  • henapplehenapple Posts: 10,842
    Where are you located?
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
  • marrtmarrt Posts: 22
    I'm located in Northern VA, not far from Dizzy Pig HQ actually.

    OK, I'll do a burn out. What's the procedure...load up a full bag, open the vents, light it up and don't open the lid again if you want to keep your eyebrows?

    My wife is pressing me to smoke a butt tonight so I better get started.  

    Also, I'll order some Rockwood for later.
  • marrtmarrt Posts: 22
    Sorry guys... I missed a couple comments when typing (and talking to my wife)..I see the burn instructions above.
  • henapplehenapple Posts: 10,842
    I'll be in York PA and the DC area in july.. could bring you some oo
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
  • SkiddymarkerSkiddymarker Posts: 5,579
    edited May 26
    Also, try using just the lump - no smoke wood at all. SWMBO is a super taster, if I use just lump, she is happy, if I use some smoke wood it is too strong for her.  
    After your clean burn, dump the lump to the top of the fire box, or middle of the fire ring for a longer cook. Light it on the top near the front and let it stabilize to 250º, I preset my vents as soon as it is started, give it an hour or two to stabilize. When it smells sweet, put the food on. 
    I think you are choking the air back which on an established fire will result in a more acrid stronger smoke. 
    Delta B.C. - Vee-Gan: old Indian word for poor hunter. 
  • lousubcaplousubcap Posts: 4,869
    @marrt-you don't need a full load of lump-above the air holes on the sides of the fire box is plenty.  You are trying to clean off the creosote build-up.  And you will succeed.  You may also need a gasket when this adventure is completed.
    Louisville
  • GogogordyGogogordy Posts: 290
    edited May 26
    Im in the "lump only" crowd. I consider the chunk of hickory, apple, cherry or whatever youre adding to the firebox to be a "seasoning" since it imparts additional flavor to the cook. Apparently its too strong for your tastes. So... delete the "seasoning" chips, and let the meat, heat and spices (that you actually apply to your meat). do the talking. By adding seasoning chunks youre over-complicating the flavors IMO. Less is often more.
    When I'm not Eggin', I'm scootin'   Eggin' and 'cueing from Temecula Ca; an hour from San Diego, an hour and five minutes from Palm Springs, and an hour and a half from Los Angeles (yeah, right. With THAT traffic?)
  • CrimsongatorCrimsongator Posts: 5,514
    I would suggest foiling the top of your plate setter as well. I do this and keep it from getting all cruddy and emitting smoke. I can tell you it isn't the egg. I can bake on mine and you'll never know it came off a charcoal fired egg.
  • aukerns08aukerns08 Posts: 19
    Marrt, I'm in the Northern VA area too, not far from Dizzy Pig.  I've been using the Nature Glo lump that Dizzy Pig sells and I really like it for all my cooks.  I've been wanting to try Rockwood but haven't ordered it yet but with Nature Glo I haven't been noticing any off flavors or coal like scents on my food.  I have been cooking my pork butts using the turbo method lately which is burning off the VOC's on more coals before I put the meat on.  

    When I do the low and slow cooks I just light the coals in the center with the torch let it burn up for 15-20 minutes and close the lid without the grate and plate setter in to let it burn off and ramp up. I let the egg get 75-100 degrees hotter than I want to cook then throw the plate setter in the woo and put it in and let it stabilize at my desired temp then throw the meat on and let it go.  This process takes about 30-45 minutes to get started but it's been working for me.

    Hopefully the clean burn and new charcoal works out for you so you can start enjoying the food more from the BGE.  If you still don't like it and want to get rid of your BGE let me know, I'm local and interested in buying another BGE.
    Large BGE

    Hamilton, VA
  • stlcharcoalstlcharcoal Posts: 881
    marrt said:
    I'm located in Northern VA, not far from Dizzy Pig HQ actually.

    OK, I'll do a burn out. What's the procedure...load up a full bag, open the vents, light it up and don't open the lid again if you want to keep your eyebrows?

    My wife is pressing me to smoke a butt tonight so I better get started.  

    Also, I'll order some Rockwood for later.
    Dizzy Pig has Rockwood.....that will save you from ordering a bunch of it.

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  • EggcelsiorEggcelsior Posts: 8,522
    If you want to try Rockwood, I'm in Frederick and can give you a bag.
  • stemc33stemc33 Posts: 798
    I heat my house with coal and hate it. The smell, ash, keeping it stoked and well I just hate it. The only reason I use it is because I heat my house for about $30.00 a month. If my food tasted like that, I'd sell my egg too. Try some of the suggestions mentioned by others. I've tasted the acrid smell from lump but that was due to type and not letting VOC's burn off. I use royal oak and have little smoke flavor if I don't use additional smoking wood. Hopefully some of the solutions others have listed will work.
    LBGE
    Wyoming
  • xiphoid007xiphoid007 Posts: 269
    edited May 26
    +1 on what @nolaegghead said. If u light too much lump and choke back the oxygen, you make a smokey, creosote filled mess. That's the bad taste. You're burning what's termed a "dirty" fire. You need a cleaner fire like what was said above. I only leave my dome open long enough to get my fire started. Then I close the lid, leave the bottom open the whole way, and dial the temp with the daisy wheel. I find top closed, small holes just under fully open is perfect 350. With the bottom open, the oxygen will help the fire burn clean. The top will restrict airflow enough to keep it cool. I had the same problem when I started, but I've been good ever since I learned this trick.
  • jllbmsjllbms Posts: 333
    I am learning SO MUCH from this discussion. Haven't had any off tastes, but I've probably been lighting mo low fires wrong.
    Long Beach, MS
  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 11,085
    As Henapple mentioned in another post, I just bought a 2nd large and got a free bag of BGE lump (aka rebranded royal Oak) with it. I did one cook just for old time's sake and it was so dirty and smoky I gave the bag to my next door neighbor when he was out of lump one evening. We are both cooking pizza tonight. He is 100 yds from me and the second I opened my door I could smell his egg. Mine is loaded with Rockwood and burning 600 degrees and totally odorless. His smells like a campfire from 100 yds and is billowing white smoke. Listen to those above and try rockwood if you don't like heavy smoke. There is a huge difference.

  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 11,085
    And I did a brisket for 12 hrs overnight last night. Here is what was left.......

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  • DuranglerDurangler Posts: 195
    Unburned chip n chunks?? :-?
    XL BGE, 22" Weber Red Head, Fiesta Gasser .... Peoria,AZ
  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 11,085
    Durangler said:

    Unburned chip n chunks?? :-?

    Just chunks. I added a few more this morning so they were only in for a few hours. These are what was left.

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