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Mixed reviews on the small

As soon as I heard about the minimax back in March I was geared up to purchase as soon as they are available, which is unclear at best. Latest I have heard is most likely early 2015.... recently visited a dealer near me, he has an older small that he wants to move so he can replace and display with a newer one. Says he will sell to me for $500. I have tried to search as many threads as possible and it seems there are mixed reviews on people's thoughts on the small- they either absolutely love or are frustrated with inability to reach higher temps. If I'm gonna spend $500 I definitely want to be able to go low n slow, 650-750 & everything in between. I wanna take another shot at getting people's thoughts. Should I go ahead and purchase the small or keep my patience in check and wait on the minimax? I could definitely use a compliment to my large. Thanks everyone!
Mechanicsburg, PA
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  • grege345grege345 Posts: 3,062
    How many times do you need to be at 700*? Personally I've prolly only be 600 a few times. 2015 for the minimax. Say it ain't so
    LBGE& SBGE———————————————•———————– Pennsylvania / poconos

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  • FockerFocker Posts: 1,650
    edited May 2014

    I'm with grege345.  What are people needing 700 dome for???

    Offer 400 cash $$$.

    Brandon
    Quad Cities


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  • grege345grege345 Posts: 3,062
    If 2015 is accurate I'd buy a small tomorrow
    LBGE& SBGE———————————————•———————– Pennsylvania / poconos

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  • PlanoPokes79PlanoPokes79 Posts: 176
    Small, xl and large and my small sees most of the action. Wouldn't trade for the max, grate seems too close to the coals for me.
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  • RRPRRP Posts: 14,664
    edited May 2014
    I'm in the "love my small" camp. The thing that I keep asking is what makes everyone believe the prototype M/M is going to be a fire breathing monster! Look at tiny fire box and short height of it. The reference of size to that 6" long pen laying there means that puppy isn't going to be holding much lump. Also the vent seems to be the same size as the existing small.
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    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
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  • egretegret Posts: 4,025
    edited May 2014
    $500 is too much for a small that was a floor model if that's all you get. You can do better than that at an eggfest. As far as the performance of the small, I've always had problems getting it up to temperature. There are some that don't and I've never been able to get a handle on exactly why that is. In my opinion, the draft door on the small is too small, i.e., it's the same draft door that's on the mini. The new mini-max has the same draft door so It's going to be interesting to hear what the results are performance-wise. 
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  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 678
    Im with the above... offer $400 cash and nothing more. another guy on here just got a small + nest for $400 out the door. I know it all depends on your location but $500 is still way high... if he wont budge then wait. You will do 1 of 2 things, either gain a knowledge or minimax delivery and possibly driving the price down on the small with mini max coming or 2 you can look for an eggfest to get one. where are you from btw?
    Beaufort, SC
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  • RACRAC Posts: 1,314
    No problems with my small at all. Go for it!

    Ricky

    Spring, TX

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  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 678
    never mind i see... you are close to a few egg fests coming up soon sir.. start looking at that option. I had a local dealer work a deal to try to match the eggfest price. might be worth a try for you. 

    this is the egg fests.. I lived in lancaster for a couple years and worked at DLA by you. 

    Beaufort, SC
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  • The Naked WhizThe Naked Whiz Posts: 7,780
    egret said:
    $500 is too much for a small that was a floor model if that's all you get. You can do better than that at an eggfest. As far as the performance of the small, I've always had problems getting it up to temperature. There are some that don't and I've never been able to get a handle on exactly why that is. In my opinion, the draft door on the small is too small, i.e., it's the same draft door that's on the mini. The new mini-max has the same draft door so It's going to be interesting to hear what the results are performance-wise. 
    And then I get mine rocket hot with no problem and probably the same door as yours.  It's a mystery!

    As for the OP, ask the guy if you can return it if it won't get as hot as you want it to.  Worth a try.....
    The Naked Whiz
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  • Tylerd76Tylerd76 Posts: 37
    @grege345‌ you make a good point and I probably would rarely if at all take it to 700, probably more like 600 for small pizza or calzone. I guess I just want to know I could for the $$. Thanks for the info on the price, I will look into the eggfests.
    Mechanicsburg, PA
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  • Hi54puttyHi54putty Posts: 1,518
    I love my small. Only bad thing is it is a pain to clean. Trying to use the ash tool is a joke. Otherwise it's great and very versatile.
    XL,L,S 
    Winston-Salem, NC 
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  • RRPRRP Posts: 14,664
    Hi54putty said:
    I love my small. Only bad thing is it is a pain to clean. Trying to use the ash tool is a joke. Otherwise it's great and very versatile.

    I agree - are you handy? I made my small clean out tool with some scrap brass and a strap of steel. PopRiveted the 1" x 2" brass to the steel with a 90 degree bend at the end and that little tool rocks! In fact it even reaches half way around the back between the outer shell and the fire box since it is that nibble.
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
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  • Eggfest pricing doesn't necessarily impact the small. They may not be utilized as demo eggs. At Salado they offered 10% discount on the small as special festival pricing because they were not being demo'd. That put it around $500 + tax with no extras. I think that Texas Eggfest was similar.

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  • tcampbelltcampbell Posts: 528
    I have a small and use it a lot,I can get it up to hi temps.but it is slower to get there than any of the other sizes.I don't understand why like said in previous post the mini has the same size draft door at bottom and it will get to 700 in no time.So will the other sizes. when I say slower I mean slow.
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  • If you get the hique grate for the small you will have no problem getting it hot.
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  • Mattman3969Mattman3969 Posts: 4,163
    If it is $500 for egg only than I would wait. I bought my small, nest & mates for $499. I think you will find better. As for the higher temps I am in the no problem camp, 700 is no problem.

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    Large BGE. Small BGE Henderson, Ky.
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  • RRPRRP Posts: 14,664
    edited May 2014
    If you get the hique grate for the small you will have no problem getting it hot.

    LOL - so say some people and others say even that doesn't work! Solution for me was I just went to a plumbing supply store (big box stores nor ACE don't carry these) and bought a cast iron floor drain grate. That sucker is at least 10 years old and can get my small rip roaring hot!
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
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  • BiggreenpharmacistBiggreenpharmacist Posts: 1,630
    edited May 2014
    Mine was slow til got hique. Sucker starts to roaring now.
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  • NPHuskerFLNPHuskerFL Posts: 8,916
    @RRP‌ are you talking like a commercial floor drain like I see in my comm restaurants? If so...that thing ain't gonna go anywhere for a long time. And +1 would allow for crazy good airflow.
    LBGE 2012, Mini MAX 2014, SS Table and Stoker
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Middleburg, FL
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  • WeberWho?WeberWho? Posts: 1,458
    I don't get the hype about the MiniMax. Yes maybe a little more portable than the small but have you seen the fire box and fire ring? No thanks. Sits way too close to the grate. Wouldn't trade my small for two MiniMaxes.
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  • FockerFocker Posts: 1,650

    Amen brother

    Brandon
    Quad Cities


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  • RRPRRP Posts: 14,664
    edited May 2014
    @RRP‌ are you talking like a commercial floor drain like I see in my comm restaurants? If so...that thing ain't gonna go anywhere for a long time. And +1 would allow for crazy good airflow.

    Yes...years ago many of us switched to a Lodge brand cast iron trivet which would last about 6 months at heat above 400. Soon we switched to quality cast iron drains. Eventually BGE listened and went CI also! Once again back then somebody was listening! Get that point?
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
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  • Fred19FlintstoneFred19Flintstone Posts: 5,115
    I have a small with a highque grate. My small is still painfully slow to get to higher temps. My mini and XL will beat it in a race to 500° like the hare vs. a snail. My small is not quick enough to be a turtle. I enjoy cooking with it though.

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  • smokesniffersmokesniffer Posts: 1,705
    I feel I am one of the lucky ones that has an egg that will go up to 600, and I don't feel that it is slow to heat up. I love my small. I do hear what @RRP is saying about the MM firebox. Not sure that would hold a lot of lump.
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  • DMWDMW Posts: 5,836
    I'm like my small, gets most of the weeknight action here. I got a new fire grate from @stlcharcoal and not sure it made a huge difference, but less chance of ash cloggage. For those that have trouble cleaning the small or getting up to high temps, there is a solution that will take care of both issues.

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    I keep mine in my deck box, if I'm in a hurry with either of my eggs, hose connected to the exhaust outlet directed toward the bottom vent takes care of it quickly. I don't have an ash tool for my small, simply suck ash out the bottom door. When it gets to the point it needs more cleanup, it's easy to pull the firering and firebox to clean throughly if needed.
    My Facebook Place where I document my cooking
    Morgantown, PA
    XL BGE - S BGE - Blackstone Pizza Oven - 30" Steel Fire Pit w/Cooking Grid - Hasty Bake Legacy - KJ Jr - Gasser
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  • DaveMDaveM Posts: 90
    My local dealer heard of a Fall 2014 delivery for the M/M.
    --Dave from Leesburg, VA BGE XL, Viking 42", Firepit with $16 grill
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  • SmokeyPittSmokeyPitt Posts: 5,825
    edited May 2014
    @DMW that is a great idea.  I never thought of switching from suck to blow!  

    Is this your shop vac? 


    Which came first the chicken or the egg?  I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. 

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  • stlcharcoalstlcharcoal Posts: 1,086
    DMW said:
    I'm like my small, gets most of the weeknight action here. I got a new fire grate from @stlcharcoal and not sure it made a huge difference, but less chance of ash cloggage.  more cleanup, it's easy to pull the firering and firebox to clean throughly if needed.
    Almost out of those, and when they're gone, they're gone.  I have about 7 Mediums left, and a dozen Smalls.

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  • JRWhiteeJRWhitee Posts: 2,567
    I have the same shop vac as @DMW works great for both my Large and Small, I have had no problems with the small I love having it as a compliment to the large.
                                                                        
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