Clean burn question

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

Quick question I'm in the middle of doing a Clean burn just started it about 30 minutes ago. Is it okay to put the platesetter in there right now that way everything gets clean at once or should I wait about an hour to an hour and a half so the dome can get clean and then throw the platesetter in? Also, will the Rutland gasket hold up to the heat?

DMW · April 2014

Don't put a cold plate setter in a nuclear egg. That's just asking for trouble, to yourself and the plate setter. If the PS was in from the beginning, no prob. How hot is the egg now?

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

Gotcha. Plate setter was not on. She's about at nuclear now lol. The outside dome temp is about 500 deg.

RRP · April 2014

A Rutland can withstand 2,200 degrees and your BGE can not even get near that. You'll be fine and yes put your PS in though it will block some of the heat cleaning your dome which is where the crud is that you really want to burn off!

DMW · April 2014

Yep, don't try to open it and put it in now. Did you pull the dome thermo out before starting?

jhl192 · April 2014

I wouldn't consider 500 nuclear.

NPHuskerFL · April 2014

Put all ceramics including p.s. at start. #3 @DMW‌ on asking for trouble putting cold p.s. in hot egg (likely would crack it due to extreme thermal shock).
@EggHeadinFlorida‌... Screw the clean burn just sit it outside in the sun in June, July August and in the Sunshine State that'll take care of it. ;-)

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

Outside dome temp is 500 deg per infrared thermo. Yes the thermometer is pulled.

NPHuskerFL · April 2014

jhl192 said:
I wouldn't consider 500 nuclear.

Believe it or not a egg with i.t. of 800℉-1000℉ the "outside" of the egg ceramic will only register at 450℉-550℉. @EggHeadinFlorida‌ was that temp inside egg or on outside egg ceramic?
Edit: @EggHeadinFlorida‌ ya I see you did exactly what I thought with IR thermometer read on outside of egg. After I seared steaks I let her rip. I had i.t. of 1,280℉ (per Fluke thermocouple) and outside read 480℉ with IR. +3 @RRP Rutland won't even flinch with those temps. My gasket is still kicking but, when it kicks the bucket I'll be doing a Rutland courtesy of Ron's expertise.

DMW · April 2014

With the outside dome temp 500* DON'T open it.

RRP · April 2014

jhl192 said:

I wouldn't consider 500 nuclear.

LOL many of us cook steaks above 700 and pizzas as well. A 500 degree fire won't do much that a normal cook doesn't already do. I always let mine rip and I have seen my infared reading above 1,000. I never try to control my burn outs and let them burn themselves out.

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

Thanks for the advise guys. She's climbing in temp, outside dome is now at 675. I can see the white on the inside of the egg. Yayyyyyy Wish I could have gotten then plate setter in there. She has a lot if grease in her. Maybe I'll wait when the egg starts cooling down and toss it in there then.

DMW · April 2014

Not sure if it would damage the PS to put it in now or not, but I would be concerned for my arms.

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Carolina Q · April 2014

DMW said:

Don't put a cold plate setter in a nuclear egg. That's just asking for trouble, to yourself and the plate setter. If the PS was in from the beginning, no prob. How hot is the egg now?

Nonsense.

http://eggheadforum.com/discussion/comment/794155#Comment_794155

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

What if I heated the Plate setter in my oven, then tossed her in the egg??

DMW · April 2014

EggHeadinFlorida said:
What if I heated the Plate setter in my oven, then tossed her in the egg??

Like Carolina Q said, you probably won't crack the PS, and if its less than 3 years old its under warranty. I'm just not sure I would want to open an egg that hot and place it in there.

DMW · April 2014

And I would have been concerned for the PS prior to reading the thread Carolina Q linked to.

NPHuskerFL · April 2014

@Carolina Q‌...good thread find there. Guess it's ok. I just figured thermal shock not so good. Guess I was incorrect...Hey if I'm wrong I'll admit it. :-). But, I'm with @DMW‌ I wouldn't want to open a nuclear egg to reach in to put in my p.s. cold p.s. or not gloves or not. No thanks (400℉-500℉ ya ok. But, 800℉+ ya not so much).

Carolina Q · April 2014

Try checking on a 900° pizza cook sometime. No balls, no blue chips.

DMW · April 2014

Carolina Q said:
Try checking on a 900° pizza cook sometime. No balls, no blue chips.

I've never temped the exterior of my egg when doing high temp pizzas, will need to check that next time.

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

Well I did throw the plate setter in the egg. No problems that I can see now. I did piss my neighbors off because all the oil that was burning off created a thick black smoke and a horrendous smell lol. But on the bright side, the plate setter is white again. I'll take pics in the morning.

DMW · April 2014

Just serve them something off the egg, they'll get over it.

Gator_Man · April 2014

EggHeadinFlorida said:

Thanks for the advise guys. She's climbing in temp, outside dome is now at 675. I can see the white on the inside of the egg. Yayyyyyy Wish I could have gotten then plate setter in there. She has a lot if grease in her. Maybe I'll wait when the egg starts cooling down and toss it in there then.

You could have put the plate setter in there................. It can take the thermal shock! I have taken a plate setter that was at 400 dome temp and cooled with a garden hose & water!! No problem at all.

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

And here is the aftermath. Just saw I have to replace the glue under the Rutland. The glue appears to have stayed intact near the outer edge of the egg. But the inner edge has evaporated. Crappy thing is, I have a butt to cook today!

SenecaTheYounger · April 2014

There's no danger putting a plate setter in a hot egg other than from flashback or burning your hand, perhaps.

In nearly fifteen years lurking on the old forum and poring over every post (of substance), I don't recall any issue from exploding platesetters. Thin cheap pizza stones have broken, but they have done so even when put into the egg at the start.

Use Permatex automotive sealant (gasket adhesive, gasket maker) to adhere the very same rutland which is now loose. No need to clean the old Rutland cement off. It will stick fast.

Carolina Q · April 2014

Lots of folks don't use a gasket at all. You can still cook the butt.

What kind of adhesive did you use on the Rutland? I've never heard of Permatex Ultra Copper failing. Mine has survived 900° dome temps. With the adhesive that comes in the Rutland hardware store bubble pack "kit"... all bets are off.

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

It's whatever RRP recommended to me. Think it was the permatex.

SenecaTheYounger · April 2014

Then you used the black Rutland cement.

Go to your autoparts store and purchase high-temperature Permatex. It's orange colored. Ignore the "600 degrees" number, as the DOME temperature can go much higher before the adhesive is exposed 600 degree temperatures.

You technically don't even need to clean the ceramic or need another gasket. Apply a lazy squiggled bead of the Permatex on the ceramic and then reapply the SAME Rutland gasket, with whatever old adhesive (if Rutland, it will be flat, grey, and brittle) adhered to the new

You will never have issues again.

Carolina Q · April 2014

Wow! Ron suggests Permatex Ultra Copper. I've never heard of that stuff failing. Mine is 4+ years old with no problem.

This was the orange colored stuff, right?

EggHeadinFlorida · April 2014

Yep orange/reddish colored goop

SenecaTheYounger · April 2014

I do not know who 'Ron' is, but I know that the gentleman who sold me mine many years ago (original forum) suggested the original Rutland cement.

I discovered the Permatex on my own, and confirmed it with a forum search. Other were using it also. It is high heat silicone.

My original waterbased Rutland cement had failed, and I reused the same gasket, with Rutland still adhered to the gasket fibers, and bedded it in the Permatex Copper. That was a number of years ago, and there have been no problems.

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