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Spar URETHANE?

Hey all,just a quick question on urethane should I use clear,semi gloss or gloss urethane (helmsman spar urethane)?

Does it matter?

 

thanks.

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  • CANMAN1976CANMAN1976 Posts: 1,581

    Sorry this is for a large wooden egg table going outside on my back deck.

     

    I just bought gloss but wasnt sure of the advantages of each type of finish?

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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 22,213
    Doesn't really matter.  I used semi-gloss.  Gloss is easier to clean.
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  • sumoconnellsumoconnell Posts: 1,255
    Gloss is easiest to clean - I'd recommend that.  Definitely go for the helmsman spar - used for outdoor boat stuff. No matter what, if exposed to sun and heat/cold, you will have maintenance.  I'd recommend a sanding sealer before you put on urethane for the best finish.

    If you want to have fun, you can try the table epoxy.. that thick drippy stuff you find in restaurant tables.
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  • CANMAN1976CANMAN1976 Posts: 1,581

    Thanks nola!!!

    Gloss it is than.

     

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  • BizGreenEggBizGreenEgg Posts: 247
    +1 on semi gloss. Gloss can show more imperfections, albeit slightly and semi gloss is still easy to clean. 
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    The damp PNW 
  • henapplehenapple Posts: 15,621
    Actually helmsman doesn't require a sanding sealer.. Most seldom use ss on exterior wood.Jmho. Sand bebetween coats. Be sure to allow time to dry. When sanding a fine white powder will let you know it's ready.
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  • Philly35Philly35 Posts: 717
    I used helmsman spar on my table and when it gets water on it, it turns white and soft. Anyone else have problems with this or did I do something wrong?
    NW IOWA
  • henapplehenapple Posts: 15,621
    Check the can. Sounds like interior poly.
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 20,730
    might be better to go to a marine store and buy spar varnish, the spar poly helmsman i used on the woodwork in my house stayed relatively soft and scratched easily for about a year before it really hardened up
  • BoombottyBoombotty Posts: 39
    I was very dissapointed  with the spar urethane in the sun.  I did 3 coats, sanding between each, and it lasted about 6 months.  I sanded everything back to bare wood, used a clear filling-sealer made by Dupont for their aviation line, then 2 coats of semi-flattened automotive clear.  All this had to be sprayed though a gun, but the results were awesome.
  • Philly35Philly35 Posts: 717
    The can says it was indoor outdoor. I think I'm gonna go back to sherwin Williams and have a chat with the gal who sold it to me.
    NW IOWA
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 22,213
    You can't expect any spar varnish or urethane to last that long unprotected in the weather.  I recommend getting a cover it'll make the finish last much longer.
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  • MotobossMotoboss Posts: 19

    Hey all,just a quick question on urethane should I use clear,semi gloss or gloss urethane (helmsman spar urethane)?

    Does it matter?

     

    thanks.

     

     

    NONE, any urethane finish is a top layer not a wood absorbing oil. It will work but your creating a lot of labor to start with and a maintenance nightmare. Use Cabot Aussy Oil, Teak Oil or boiled linseed oil, think about your deck stain materials. These will seal the wood, let it breath naturally and require very little in future maintenance.

     

    Just my $.02


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  • henapplehenapple Posts: 15,621
    @CANMAN1976... New egg and I know you're excited. One thing to consider. Wait on building the table. I know it'll be tough but it's only time. You'll know more in a few months what you'd really like. Just a thought.

    If possible a solid top is really nice... I know you're as excited as a 13 year old boy with a stack of playboys.
    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
  • I agree with Fishless. Get the Epiphanes (sp?) from a marime store. It was$50 a quart (not a misprint) but it onlly took a quart. Of course my table burned to the ground so you should really take everything I say with a large dose of skepticism.
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  • JGM411JGM411 Posts: 7
    I am in the finishing process of a BGE Table.  I have the first coat of Interlux Schooner Marine Grade Spar Varnish.  Back in 2008, I built an outdoor dining table for a friend out of old 150 plus year red oak.

    At the time of that build, I asked for recommendations on varnish.  A knowledgable member of a woodworking forum recommended staying away from the Spar varnishes found in hardware stores. He recommended Pettit's Captain, Epifanes Clear High Gloss, and Interlux Schooner.

    I am glad I listened to him and made my purchase from a sailboat marina supplier.  The table held up well, but is now showing some signs of aging.  I will post pictures of my table when it is completed.
  • MotobossMotoboss Posts: 19
    I agree with Fishless. Get the Epiphanes (sp?) from a marime store. It was$50 a quart (not a misprint) but it onlly took a quart. Of course my table burned to the ground so you should really take everything I say with a large dose of skepticism.
    Now that is some funny stuff there............
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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 22,213
    JGM411 said:
    I am in the finishing process of a BGE Table.  I have the first coat of Interlux Schooner Marine Grade Spar Varnish.  Back in 2008, I built an outdoor dining table for a friend out of old 150 plus year red oak.

    At the time of that build, I asked for recommendations on varnish.  A knowledgable member of a woodworking forum recommended staying away from the Spar varnishes found in hardware stores. He recommended Pettit's Captain, Epifanes Clear High Gloss, and Interlux Schooner.

    I am glad I listened to him and made my purchase from a sailboat marina supplier.  The table held up well, but is now showing some signs of aging.  I will post pictures of my table when it is completed.
    That my friend, is good advice. 
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  • JGM411JGM411 Posts: 7
    Here is a picture of my table with three coats of Interlux Schooner Spar Varnish.  All parts of the table will receive a minimum of 4 coats and the table top at least 6 coats
  • freedog74freedog74 Posts: 63
    @JGM441 where did you find the Interlux Schooner Spar Varnish at?  I have a new table and need to put a good sealer on it.
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 22,213
    JGM411 said:
    Here is a picture of my table with three coats of Interlux Schooner Spar Varnish.  All parts of the table will receive a minimum of 4 coats and the table top at least 6 coats
    Go Festool!
    ______________________________________________
    This is my signature line just so you're not confused.
    Large and Medium BGE, Kamado Joe Jr., smoker with a 5k btu AC, gas grill, fire pit, pack of angry cats, two turntables and a microphone, my friend.  Registered republican.
    New Orleans, LA - we know how to eat 

  • JGM411JGM411 Posts: 7
    freedog74 said:
    @JGM441 where did you find the Interlux Schooner Spar Varnish at?  I have a new table and need to put a good sealer on it.
    I got it from the local Sailboat Marina here in town.  http://www.westaccess.com/
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