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Rutland Gasket and XL BGE
what size Rutland gasket needs to be bought for my dads XLBGE? He bought an 84" but has done some research saying he needs to compress it... so he's a bit worried that its the wrong size.
any experience with this? thanks in advance
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i think you need about 9 feet but not 100 percent sureLarge Big Green Egg , XL Big Green Egg . BBQ Guru, Weber Kettle, Weber Q grill for road trips.
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Don't know, but 84 is what you need for a large if he's compressing it. You could always email RRP through greeneggers. He's been selling them for years.
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MichaelCentral Connecticut -
There is an explanation Ron did on sizing, compressing and marking the gasket on TNW's site
Steve
Caledon, ON
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RRP has this down to a science -- sold "at cost" well over 800 gasket kits. He has sold me three of them, and after installing them according to his included instructions i had to trim about an inch off of the end for it to match up to the other end of the gasket. Another advantage is the cushioning effect the Rutland has due to it's thickness.
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84" is not long enough to do it in one piece. I used 94" on my XL. You can't get one that long in a kit. Do what Charlie tuna says and get it from RRP "on the other forum". Also, make sure you don't use the "adhesive" that comes in the Rutland kit, use Permatex Ultra Copper -- you can get it at any auto store for $6.00 or so.Packerland, Wisconsin
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Charlie tuna said:RRP has this down to a science -- sold "at cost" well over 800 gasket kits. He has sold me three of them, and after installing them according to his included instructions i had to trim about an inch off of the end for it to match up to the other end of the gasket. Another advantage is the cushioning effect the Rutland has due to it's thickness.
Steve
Caledon, ON
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@ChokeOnSmoke why not use what comes in the kit ? isn't that good up to 2000 degree'sLarge Big Green Egg , XL Big Green Egg . BBQ Guru, Weber Kettle, Weber Q grill for road trips.
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bigphil said:@ChokeOnSmoke why not use what comes in the kit ? isn't that good up to 2000 degree's"it's water based. the ceramic sucks the water out, and can cause it to eventually cleave off in one piece. it's designed for steel, which doesn't draw out the water (and being water based, it's required for the cure). the permatex is 'only' rated to 700, but your rim never gets to 700 anyway. it is pretty viscous, and sticks perfectly."Packerland, Wisconsin
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Have Rutland's with Ultra Copper on all four of my eggs. Purchased every one of them from RRP, cut to length and ready to go. The Ultra Copper has held up to pizza cooks and a couple cleaning burns that buried my 1000* TEL-TRU.
Mike
I'm ashamed what I did for a Klondike Bar!!
Omaha, NE -
I have one installed with the factory glue that comes in the box for two years. It's holding up fine. As long as the adhesive is fresh in the container I don't see why it can't be used long term. My 2 cents.
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BOWHUNR said:Have Rutland's with Ultra Copper on all four of my eggs. Purchased every one of them from RRP, cut to length and ready to go. The Ultra Copper has held up to pizza cooks and a couple cleaning burns that buried my 1000* TEL-TRU.
Mike
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@ChokeOnSmoke guess I'll find out I used the black Rutland adhesive set really fast . I guess if it peels off I'll use the permatex next time . Lesson learned . ThanksLarge Big Green Egg , XL Big Green Egg . BBQ Guru, Weber Kettle, Weber Q grill for road trips.
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Can someone post a link so I can find rrp? I need a gasket.In the bush just East of Cambridge,Ontario
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Ron Pratt hangs out at the www.greeneggers.com forum. If you post there, he will contact you.
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I bought 9' for my XL. I can vouch for the Rutland cement not working. I used the Rutland cement to attach a nomex gasket. It fell off in the middle of a pizza cook and burned in half. Nomex is great, but can't withstand sitting in a charcoal inferno. After the nomex burned off I put on a Rutland with permatex. Use the 3m sanding disc attached to your drill to clean the rim. It works great. The naked Whiz's site has great instructions. I used a sawzall blade to spread the permatex.Mark Annville, PA
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May be I'll be okay my large is mostly used for low and slow and cooks at 450 and below my XL does all the pizza and high temp cooks .if not I now know better for the next time .Large Big Green Egg , XL Big Green Egg . BBQ Guru, Weber Kettle, Weber Q grill for road trips.
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I don't understand using permatex to attach something else.. It's already a gasket by itself. Why the need for more gasket?XL, Small, Mini & Mini Max Green Egg, Shirley Fab Trailer, 6 gal and 2.5 gal Cajun Fryers, BlueStar 60" Range, 48" Lonestar Grillz Santa Maria, Alto Shaam 1200s, Gozney Dome, Gateway 55g Drum
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Thatgrimguy said:I don't understand using permatex to attach something else.. It's already a gasket by itself. Why the need for more gasket?
The Naked Whiz -
I read some where Rutland gaskets should not be used around food. There was a post on this forum about it. I was going to buy one until I read the post. I went with nomex. link here Rutland
XLBGE, LBGE
Fernandina Beach, FL
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Finished cleaning the base of my XL Egg tonight. Gonna put the Rutland on in the morning. The Pumice stone that Ron suggested worked like a charm.
Steve
XL, Mini Max, and a 22" Blackstone in Cincinnati, Ohio -
bigphil said:May be I'll be okay my large is mostly used for low and slow and cooks at 450 and below my XL does all the pizza and high temp cooks .if not I now know better for the next time .Large Big Green Egg , XL Big Green Egg . BBQ Guru, Weber Kettle, Weber Q grill for road trips.
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Gents,
I have a Large BGE than I am getting ready to install a Rutland Gasket on according the the instructions on The NakedWhiz. I have Stove Cement that came with the gasket and Permtex Ultra Copper Silicone Sealant. I am planning to use the Permatex. It will be 30F and sunny today. Can I install it in that weather? My lid and base are clean (3M wheel and pumice stone rock).
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homebrewtim said:Gents,
I have a Large BGE than I am getting ready to install a Rutland Gasket on according the the instructions on The NakedWhiz. I have Stove Cement that came with the gasket and Permtex Ultra Copper Silicone Sealant. I am planning to use the Permatex. It will be 30F and sunny today. Can I install it in that weather? My lid and base are clean (3M wheel and pumice stone rock).
Thanks!I posed the curing question to the manufacturer of Permatex Ultra Copper and their technical reply was that yes you can apply it at temperatures between 20 and 30F though the ideal temperature is between 50 and 80F. Silicones such as Permatex are moisture cured so temperatures above and below these ranges remove that element. Curing occurs in 24 hours. If you are able to warm surfaces to at least the 40 to 50F range that will help for better bonding across the surfaces.
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What do you think about starting a low fire to cure per NakedWhiz instructions for gasket install using Rutland cement?
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homebrewtim said:What do you think about starting a low fire to cure per NakedWhiz instructions for gasket install using Rutland cement?Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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Awesome...thanks. I should have warmed up the BGE I think, but its done. Its siting outside in 27F cold dry air and will cure 3-days before I need to cook. Lid is stilll off 'cuz Permatex is still a little moist. Planning a maybe a 1-2 hour low fire Friday, empty. Then planning to smoke this weekend. Got a little Permatex on the inside of the egg, but I assume it'll burn off.
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When you get some Permatex slopped inside or out your best bet is to leave it alone - Do NOT try to wipe it off - let it cure and then using a sharp blade trim it off. While some may have penetrated the ceramic pores that won't be an issue but smearing when it was wet just spreads it. Now if there are any loose "hairs" on the gasket just take your butane fire starter and they will burn off. I am curious though why you left the dome open? With it closed while curing you have a uniform pressure which eliminates any hills.Re-gasketing America one yard at a time.
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