umani burger

smokesniffer · May 2012

Well, I was having lunch for one, so thought I'd do a burger. Just built one single burger with fish sauce, s&p. Had bacon, raw onions, pickles and tomatoes and mushrooms. Grilled at 425. Turned out very good.

Thanks to Tweev for steering me onto this.

You da man!

Jasper · May 2012

Ditto. I think it was Tweev who showed me the way of umami. Anyway, I don't do burgers without the fish sauce. Tweev is the MASTER....bater..(insert rimshot).LOL...I kid. Thanks to whomever first posted the umami burger recipe site.

Village Idiot · May 2012

.... and I showed Tweeve, but who am I to bask in glory. I am but a poor man, struggling to make ends meet. I do not seek fame and fortune, like Tweeve. I only want to share any morsel of information I have learned to my friends here on the forum.

Let Tweeve bathe in the kudos, strutting like a Banty rooster. I will sit in the corner, content that my friends here have upgraded their cooking abilities to amaze their families and friends.

Peace be with you.

Eggdam · May 2012

Fish sauce in the burgers? You got a recipe?

Little Steven · May 2012

Gary,

Tweev is an original. I can't believe you would suggest he would copy an idea.

Richard Fl · May 2012

EGGspand your Umami horizons:

http://www.greeneggers.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=1195314&catid=1

Village Idiot · May 2012

Gary,

Tweev is an original. I can't believe you would suggest he would copy an idea.

You are right, Steve. I am so ashamed.

It appears that Richard Fl wants the recognition too.

I say, let them all have it. Even though I brought it to the Egghead community, risking ridicule, disdain, and contempt, I want them to be the ones to receive the accolades, the glory, the honors, and the fame.

That's the kind of guy I am.

Little Steven · May 2012

I've been using chopped anchovies in burgers for years but do you hear me complaining? Man get withh the program..there are guys that are way ahead of our meagre efforts...Top men

Village Idiot · May 2012

I've been using chopped anchovies in burgers for years but do you hear me complaining? Man get withh the program..there are guys that are way ahead of our meagre efforts...Top men

Tweeve rules !!!!!

:))

Richard Fl · May 2012

I have been doing fish sauce since Viet Nam. how old is Tweev??

Botch · May 2012

Guys, its just a freekin' hamburger.

FxLynch · May 2012

In respect to raising my post count, I bet Tweev will be willy willy WILLY happy to see himself/herself painted in such a beautiful, fishy smelling light!!

smokesniffer · May 2012

@VI. my apologies. I now understand that U R DA MAN!. It was my mistake. It will never happen again.

The Cen-Tex Smoker · May 2012

@VI. my apologies. I now understand that U R DA MAN!. It was my mistake. It will never happen again.

VI is fine.good god, he's a normal dude like the rest of us. relax

smokesniffer · May 2012

Hey just playing :D

The Cen-Tex Smoker · May 2012

Hey just playing :D

me too. all good

The Cen-Tex Smoker · May 2012

Hey just playing :D

we may be on the same page here..............

smokesniffer · May 2012

looks interesting. How do ya do that?

Village Idiot · May 2012

Folks, my posts were tongue in cheek. I was just trying to get a rise out of Tweeve.

As far as the truth, here is my recollection.

The term, umami, was first introduced to the forum by the fantastic chef, Patricio Wise (PWise or Pato), formerly from Monterrey, MX). He made a thread about umami, using his purchase of Italian colutera (a fish sauce made in Italy since the Roman Empire). Some googling of "umami" found the "white on rice" couple's webpage on the ultimate umami burger. Click here.

A while later, Tweeve posted their exact recipe, but didn't give them credit (I'm sure it was an oversight). He caught grief for that for quite a while. I suppose that was the basis for my tongue in cheek remarks. I apologize to Tweeve, Little Steven, and RichardFl.

Ottawa_Eggman · May 2012

It's really easy - you can even bend them into different shapes when they are still warm.. Also, like all cheese, pretty tasty.

Very tasty in a salad too

Newportlocal · May 2012

Love the banter that being said this umami burgers is going on the top of my list for things to try. Thanks for the awareness.

stike · May 2012

credit can be shared, of course, but i thought it was AZscott who first suggested (on the other forum) making an Umami burger. Was in a thread by Pato, who was asking for suggestions to improve his burgers. After AZ Scott mentioned it, a few people really took to it and popularized it (again, on the forum. it had been around before that as far as i know, elsewhere)

stike · May 2012

nope. close though. it was boilermaker ben, in that same Pato thread i was mis-rememberin'
clickey the linkey:>> HERE

stike · May 2012

for the recrd, and to no one in particular: not sure anyone was accusing anyone of being a DB or non-sharing. just seemed to be one person awful invested in who got "credit" for popularizing something to this crowd. i agree, it's hard to take credit for something a million people are already doing. kinda the reason i trip over myself to give credit to ruhlman et al, lest the mere mention of 'curing' by me cause someone to accuse me of claiming to invent the concept, which has happened.

damned if did, damned if didn't, typically.

Village Idiot · May 2012

This thread has become hilarious. As I mentioned above, my posts were tongue in cheek about Tweeve inadvertently giving out the white on rice recipe without credit (again, unintentionally) and I was having fun with that. Tweeve and I have messaged back and forth and we are good.

Then, several folks took it seriously, as if anyone really gives a flying f*ck who introduced umami to the forum(s). The bottom line is that no one here invented the technique of adding fish sauce to food ... that was done 3,000 years ago. It just seems that they are interested in poking digs at others, whether it be me, Tweeve, or whomever. It is also interesting to note that these detractors are incidental posters here, making their primary lair in other venues. As for me, I could do without their benefitting us with their expertise and cooks with recipes that they never seem to post here.

If I'm wrong, I'll leave this forum to them. Stike, I am going to cook Tonkatsu tonight. I was going to post it on the forum tomorrow. Why don't you do that instead of me?

Richard Fl · May 2012

Great thread, SE Asia ''67-'71 for me and fish sauce. Now who is going to start a thread about chocolate in Mexican food ?

PS VI since my loney does not fit your palate, why not try sausage and a regular fatty stuffed with mac & cheese, unless you do not like m/c. Luv U!

Newportlocal · May 2012

Great thread, SE Asia ''67-'71 for me and fish sauce. Now who is going to start a thread about chocolate in Mexican food ?

PS VI since my loney does not fit your palate, why not try sausage and a regular fatty stuffed with mac & cheese, unless you do not like m/c. Luv U!

Holy mole! With a plantain side dish.

XLBalco · May 2012

i need to try these burgers out based on the hoopla in here..

btw- does it pay anymore to be the person that first mentioned how to make these?

smokesniffer · May 2012

time for a group hug, ;)

smokesniffer · May 2012

@ tweev thanks for the recipe, going to give parmesan cheese cracker a whirl next time.

steaks going on the grill tonight.

smokesniffer · May 2012

=)) =)) =; O:-) =))

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