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PCFisher66
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I finally broke down and bought an XL. After building the table I thought, now how am I going to get it to the back yard?? I had to hook it up to my tractor and pull it around (went easy enough). After doing that I took my old gasser down the street and gave it to a neighbor. Nothing like taking your grill out for a walk.
Tod
Tod
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Looks great...and I hate to say it but it would help if there was airflow in between the pavers & the XL... :(
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interesting comment. I have an xl set up the same way.. I thought feet were not needed nor recommended?XL Walled Lake, MI
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A lot of heat comes out the bottom of a BGE...airflow helps reduce it. I have my large on two pavers and have BGE feet in between the pavers and the BGE.....just overly cautious I guess.
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Steve,
I saw your follow up pecan post. If you want to contact me offline I will give you my address and you can send me a self addressed/pre paid USPS box and I will ship it back with pecan. Let me know. -
just to throw a wrench into it...
BGE says "no feet" with the XL.
thy haven't said why (strength issue?), just that th feet are not intended to be used with the XLed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante -
Not sure why either but if I had an XL (which I don't :( ) I would probably put copper T's or something else under it for airflow, unless BGE can explain why it isn't necessary.
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Pretty fancy table there. Congratulations and have fun cooking.
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I think I would be inclined to use spaced split firebricks to replace the upper paver
Steve
Caledon, ON
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Excerpted from an old email:
"It's a sound approach, but the reasoning is flawed. The feet can handle an awful lot of compression. The feet crushing under the weight isn't an issue, nor is the chance that the bottom of the egg would crush locally (where the feet are).
The issue for BGE is very likely the fact that the bottom of the XL is so wide, that it is virtually spanning the distance. Sure, the large is "spanning" from foot to foot too, but not so much that it's a concern.
Ceramic (and concrete) have virtually NO value to resist bending, or to span anything. In fact, whenever you see concrete spans used in highway design, it is the unseen steel reinforcing which takes ALL of the tension and bending stress (except for the compression). So, yeah, a rock, or concrete, or ceramic can span a little, but they very quickly lose any ability to span anything wider than maybe 6 to 9 times their thickness. You can reinforce it with glass fibers but essentially, it's almost taken as a given to dismiss any tensile strength or bending resistance for concrete, ceramic, cast stone, etc.
And when something is heated, it loses strength even further. So, I'm guessing that the BGE folks have found that a very hot bottom trying to span that distance is more likely to crack than one sitting flat on the ground.
It is said that concrete fails "spectacularly', meaning it happens instantly and without any real notice (bending, sagging). It just pops. Steel will sag, band, and bounce back. Concrete cracks and crumbles.
Better for BGE to have the XL sit flat than to risk developing a crack across the bottom." - stike
edit: For more, read: http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=920499&catid=1 -
The dealer said no the the feet also, just the paver.
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that was a guess...
i think the OP was saying the feet would crush. nah. my guess is it's more likely it has to do with cracking of the base.
by the way, your penchant for remembering things i say borders on stalking. i don't mind alaskanC stalking me, but you are not nearly as attractive as she. to me, i mean. rod, however, finds you quite dashing.ed egli avea del cul fatto trombetta -Dante -
Maybe a stupid idea but why not raise the paver off of the wood rather than the egg of the paver? I've seen pictures of the burnt tables when an egg was right on top of the paver and that is concerning (to me at least)....
You could probably just spread some 1/2" galvanized nuts or something in 8 or so places below the paver so it distributes weight evenly... -
It's not just things you say, it's things everyone says. :P Just can't help it. :blink: Don't take it personally. :laugh:
Rod does have good taste. :laugh: -
Nice rig.
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Very nice table, looks good. The dealer set up my XL and table with just the stone and told me XL didn't come with or need feet. That was two years ago. Hope he's right. IMHO, having an air gap between the stone and table makes sense. In recent conversations with my dealer, he claims he's never had a heat issue with the XL stone sitting on the table. Claims he's been in business seven years.
Barry
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I built the table with extra support under the Egg. If it last a few years that will be fine, by that time I'll want to build another one
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Make sure you have enough room on the sides, between the egg and the table. Can't really tell from your picture but it looks mighty close. Folks here have posted pictures of tables that caught fire because the egg did not have enough room.
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That's the ticket
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That's a really beautiful table. I love the dark colors. Scott
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