Mac help

Pat, this help?

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1338?viewlocale=en_US

Never mind... I just read the paragraph at the bottom of the page. Looks like you can't get there from here.

Yeah, I misread your question. Other than ebay, I don't know where you can find the retail disk, but you have to be careful buying from unknowns.

Now... don't get so far behind!!!! That said, I'm still at Leopard. :laugh:

I think he's helping steve. questions about a hot dog cook, I think. Or short ribs.

Pat... working on it, bud. You have email.

Hi,

Just curious - why wouldn't you just get the "latest & greatest" that is out there? It's only like $30...

Pat,
You can try ebay. I've bought disc there that were new, legal and could be registered. When the compaies move on they dump the outdated discs to buyers that sell them at places like ebay.

If you're forced to pay $300 for an outdated Operating System, my advice to would be to just get a new machine. Even paying $80 is way too much for an OS that isn't even supported anymore...

For not much more than the $300 price, you can have a brand new machine with the latest OS, faster processor, more RAM, etc.

Not to sound combative - but sounds like you're just trying to put lipstick on a pig here. You're gonna end up putting more time, effort, and money into an outdated machine & an outdated OS than what it is worth.

RAM is incredibly cheap right now, and you can get a mid-level Intel "I" processor, which would still be light years beyond your machine in terms of speed, upgradability, and also, from the sounds of things, I'd bet you can increase your hard drive space immensely, perhaps 10-fold.

Take a look around at some flyers - not sure if you have a Fry's or a Costco type place around where you are, but oftentimes they have sales where you can get a decent brand new machine for like $400-600.

That would be the path I'd take, rather than pouring money into an outdated system... just my $0.02 :P

HTH,
Rob

Pat,

Well, sounds like you've definitely gotten your $$'s worth out of that old machine!! Sounds like it's been a good workhorse for ya, but like most everything else in life, there comes a time where we must move on :P

Sort of like an old pair of shoes - they may still fit well, they may still be the most comfortable ones you have, but if they look like they came out of a 70's disco movie, ya may not wanna wear them out in public (especially to a nice restaurant with the missus)

Oh, and ya never said anything about getting a new Mac - yeah, $800 is not gonna get you even close to a new Mac... unless ya wanna get an Ipad

Macs can run Windows quite easily, but a little known fact is that, since Macs are Intel based now - a PC can run a Mac OS too!! However, it immediately voids the warranty of the Mac OS (and if I remember correctly, is illegal as per the End User License Agreement, or EULA). However, it CAN be done - there's even steps online how to do it - those PCs that have been converted to run Mac OS are called "Hackintosh's" :woohoo:

Though, doing it is NOT for the faint of heart, as it takes a high level of computer knowledge, and if you're saying you don't have such a level, I'd definitely NOT try it or else ya may end up w/ an expensive paper weight

And rumor has it that Pat has in fact....................at LEAST once.....put lipstick on a pig. Just a rumor.

Lucky for you hearsay isn't admissible. LOL.

maybe because there's comparatively less software written for the mac

i know that the software i use for my day-job won't run as fast on a mac

i have owned more macs than PCs in my life, but each has its place. ferraris are well designed, pretty, expensive, and have a subculture. but when you want to go get the groceries, you gotta sometimes use a real car :woohoo:

stike wrote:

i also run a boxx (windows7 x64) computer, which, although somewhat costly, out-computes anything available from apple.

This may have been the case at one time (although I doubt it), but it is certainly not true today. If you order a fairly basic 6, 8, or 12 core MacPro from Apple and buy the RAM, solid-state drive, and whatever else you want to upgrade elsewhere, your purchase price will be very close to a similarly equipped Windows box. What can out-compute a speced-out MacPro, and how? Once you count the value of your time putting the Windows box together, you may be ahead with the Mac. At the top of the market, a high-end Windows box and a high-end Mac are very close in price. Even at the lower end of the market, the quality of the components make up a substantial part of the price difference. I have a 5-yr old Macbook Pro that is still going strong.

Organization strategy is about making choices, about not being everything to everyone, and about doing different activities from your competitors. Apple is one of a few North American companies that actually has a discernable strategy, and it is obviously working. Part of their strategy involves dumping old technology that is slowing progress or that is not serving their strategic purpose. For some people it works just fine, for others it doesn't. It's not that Apple arrogantly knows better (or think they do), it's that they have a strategic direction, and are choosing to follow it. And the fact that a bunch of consumers identify with what Apple is doing and gain or perceive benefits from the products does not make people blind or stupid or religious zealots.


Mark

Buying a high end Mac involves more than going to the Apple store and clicking on the most expensive option for everything. If Boxx Technologies had an online store, I'm sure I could outfit a $12,000 idiot box by doing the same thing.

The fastest chip for the Macpro is the 6 core at 3.33ghz, not 2.93.

Apple charges too much for Ram - so many buyers get the base ram on their machine from Apple and then buy from a third party. OWC claims that the recent Macpros can take 64gb of ram, not 32.

You can also get two 1.5gb video cards from OWC for a Macpro, so it's not limited to 1gb.

I guess it's possible that your needs are so highly specialized that it is not possible to outfit a Macpro to do what your software requires, but it seems highly unlikely. I bet that a tech nerd like the kind of guy who works at Boxx could spec a Mac that would be able to do whatever your Boxx box does.

Boxx has an online configuration guide.
all i did was configure what apple was calling their pro machine at it's top prformance specs. if they have other stuff available, they opught to actually mention that to those who go there looking to buy it and looking to configure a high end machine.

if they can add stuff that's not normally available, or do a custom rig, that doesn't disprove my point. actually, helps prove it.

i'm saying that dollar for dollar, equal specs, equal performance, apples are more expensive. that has never NOT been the case.

added style, and the OS are what people are paying the extra for.

i'm not trying to get into a pissing contest, i'm just saying i would buy an apple tomorrow if they had one that could do what my computer does, for the SAME PRICE.

they do not