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Need some advice from the wizards among us.....

I will start this by saying I think everyone here feels like accomplished cooks until you toss in the "Guest" variant and **** gets real....
 
I have only the KJ Jr currently and I was asked this week to cook a couple butts, 8.5 and 8lbs. The party is tomorrow at 1800 and i am to bring these at that time. First thought was turbo both today and reheat tomorrow. Then several other options crossed my slow mind.
better options 
OPT1  Low N Slow the first one now and as soon as it finishes, turbo the second
OPT2  Low n Slow fist and wrap at  165 then oven and repeat for the second.
OPT3  Low N Slow both starting now
OPT4  Turbo Both allowing about 5hrs each and 2hrs of rest (starting at 0530 tomorrow roughly)
OPT5  Butterfly and Turbo Both in less time..

Never done a butt for friends on this Jr but i knew it was coming soon. I need some advice and feel free to chime in but im looking for the Turbo guys and guysthat specifically cook butts a good bit and maybe on the smalls

@rrp @Mickey I know there is many more of you im leaving out but please chime in anyway. 
Beaufort, SC
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  • NPHuskerFLNPHuskerFL Posts: 16,040
    Option 6> low and slow both of them. Or is this not an option on your cooker? I know given the weights of the butts I've seen folks do 2 on a SBGE with some ingenuity and if on a LBGE or XLBGE it's absolutely no issue. But, I'm not familiar with KJ Jr setup options.
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
  • RRPRRP Posts: 20,990
    edited May 2014
    Thanks for the compliment - I have to ask though how big is a KJ Jr? If the size is sufficient my advice is to go with option 4 - hands down! Clarification though that will be both butts at the same time for the 5 hours...not 5 hours for one and then starting the other for 5 more hours.
    L, M, S, Mini
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    @RRP @NPHuskerFL its is the size of a small roughly 13'' grid without the depth for more charcoal... what about standing them both up somehow? I think i can get it low n slow but will i see any real difference then turbo? I always wrap at 165ish and do LnS but was thinking this may be the best time for a turbo set....just not sure. 
    Beaufort, SC
  • calikingcaliking Posts: 9,354
    Could you be overthinking this? My heard started hurting after option 3. I recommend whichever method allows for the most drinking and the most sleep!

    #1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February  2013 • #3 Mini May 2013
    A happy BGE family in Houston, TX.
  • RRPRRP Posts: 20,990
    See my edited comment? If you can shoe horn in the two at the same time do it, making sure you maintain 340 to 350. And due to the closeness be sure you are cooking indirect! As for foil - I would not! Foil on a turbo cook screws up the bark IMO.
    L, M, S, Mini
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
  • TexanOfTheNorthTexanOfTheNorth Posts: 3,917
    edited May 2014
    Option 6> low and slow both of them. Or is this not an option on your cooker? I know given the weights of the butts I've seen folks do 2 on a SBGE with some ingenuity and if on a LBGE or XLBGE it's absolutely no issue. But, I'm not familiar with KJ Jr setup options.
    C'mon @NPHuskerFL... that was OPT3.  #-o
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  • RRPRRP Posts: 20,990
    Another thought - with the KJJr is the dome thermometer removeable? That way you can pull it out close dome and reinsert the thermometer so as to not impale a butt messing up the temp reading plus bending the therm probe.
    L, M, S, Mini
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 22,723
    Low n slow the first one overnight, then FTC.  Next turbo the 2nd.  Both good techniques and you'll be able to compare the two methods.
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  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    caliking said:
    Could you be overthinking this? My heard started hurting after option 3. I recommend whichever method allows for the most drinking and the most sleep!
    Def turbo then LOL I can be drunk in 5hrs easy
    Beaufort, SC
  • Chris_WangChris_Wang Posts: 1,253
    Option 1 allows for both bragging rights and comparable data...

    Ball Ground, GA

    ATL Sports Homer

     

  • MickeyMickey Posts: 18,431
    You do understand the rest in opt 4 is not mandatory? It's just there to get you to dinner. Opt # 4 if it were me.
    Salado TX Egg Family: 2 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max (I'm good for now). 

  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    @Mickey I use the rest as a buffer in case butts need more cooking time but yes sir i know its not mando. Thanks
    Beaufort, SC
  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 21,333
    since you said you wrap in foil at 165 anyways, wrap it and toss it in the oven while you start your turbo butt.....that would be OPP6
    :D

    honestly, if you can fit them both in, go with what you know and are comfortable with or go with OPP6
    :))
  • Little StevenLittle Steven Posts: 28,742
    Is it just me who feels like they are buying a truck here?

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    LOL LS.....except I have the expertise of great individuals and not thieving car salesmen  >:)
    Beaufort, SC
  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    Updates....once the jr cooled off from earlier cook, I tried to fit both butts on cryovac'ed  they wouldnt fit on edge or flat...looks like singles...
    Beaufort, SC
  • MaskedMarvelMaskedMarvel Posts: 1,670
    edited May 2014
    Option 7 - buy a Large BGE \:D/
    Large BGE and Medium BGE-- Greensboro!


  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    Option 7 - buy a Large BGE \:D/
    Just sold my large to buy another setup...just have not got the deal done yet...thanks for the help  ;)
    Beaufort, SC
  • NPHuskerFLNPHuskerFL Posts: 16,040
    edited May 2014



    Option 6> low and slow both of them. Or is this not an option on your cooker? I know given the weights of the butts I've seen folks do 2 on a SBGE with some ingenuity and if on a LBGE or XLBGE it's absolutely no issue. But, I'm not familiar with KJ Jr setup options.

    C'mon @NPHuskerFL... that was OPT3.  #-o

    8-} don't know how I missed that one @TexanOfTheNorth‌
    LBGE 2013 & MM 2014
    Die Hard HUSKER & BRONCO FAN
    Flying Low & Slow in "Da Burg" FL
  • RRPRRP Posts: 20,990
    Updates....once the jr cooled off from earlier cook, I tried to fit both butts on cryovac'ed  they wouldnt fit on edge or flat...looks like singles...
    even standing so they are high in the dome and holding each other upright? An all metal skewer or two can aid the standing position.
    L, M, S, Mini
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    Yeah hold for pics ...once out of plastic they may lay down a bit. how much gap between the dome do they need? maybe an inch max is what ill have
    Beaufort, SC
  • odie91odie91 Posts: 393
    @RRP @NPHuskerFL its is the size of a small roughly 13'' grid without the depth for more charcoal... 
    Is the KJ Jr is shorter than the BGE Small?

  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    i think its a bit shorter from dome

    Beaufort, SC
  • plumbfir01plumbfir01 Posts: 719
    @RRP and @Mickey and everyone else.... i am using bad byrons and not cutting it...do i mustard first on these butts?
    Beaufort, SC
  • Mattman3969Mattman3969 Posts: 7,314
    Either way I use mustard but the rub will stick without it

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    2008 -Large BGE. 2013- Small BGE and 2015 - Mini. Henderson, Ky.
  • RRPRRP Posts: 20,990
    That's your call!!! personally even though I an highly tolerant to the taste of salt I found BB to be horribly salty and honestly I threw out that bottle of rub after that first disaster! Maybe you will like it. Again - you asked my opinion and I gave it like it or not! Ok?
    L, M, S, Mini
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
  • MickeyMickey Posts: 18,431
    @RRP and @Mickey and everyone else.... i am using bad byrons and not cutting it...do i mustard first on these butts?

    I do BB's then mustard and BB's again. Love BB's.
    Salado TX Egg Family: 2 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max (I'm good for now). 

  • xiphoid007xiphoid007 Posts: 524
    I vote for turbo both at the same time. FTC when done and take that to the party. You can pull the meat there. Everyone will be drooling whole you're pulling.

    Otherwise I think http://eggheadforum.com/profile/14337/fishlessman has the best idea.
    Pittsburgh, PA - 1 LBGE
  • xiphoid007xiphoid007 Posts: 524
    I was trying to post fishlessman there. Screwed that up. . .
    Pittsburgh, PA - 1 LBGE
  • SGHSGH Posts: 23,395

    @plumbfir01

    First let me point out that im not one of the wizards or the elite. However I do have a kamado joe jr.

    I will keep this short and sweet. Looking at the size of your butts and taking into account the head room of the joe jr. I would recommend running 300-325. You will avoid scorching and still achieve a very fast cook. The head room on the jr. is why I limit the temp on turbo. Reflective heat can and will become a issue on extended cooks. Not as much of a problem on the larger cookers. That being said I would turbo both of them. In case you are wondering Myron Mixon has more than proved that hot and fast works. Hard to argue with the winningest man ever. Just remember with the jr try to stay around 325 to avoid scorching or drying from the reflective heat from the dome. Hope this helps my friend.


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