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This is a FIRE Hazard

Richard FlRichard Fl Posts: 8,217
edited 9:48PM in EggHead Forum
Have had my large in a table since '02 when it was bought used 2 years. The previous owner had placed a thin cheep 12 inch floor tile under the egg and no spacers. did not know any better in the beginning so cooked on it. Over the years the tile cracked and the table caught fire at the gasket level a few times. Actually used a glass of water to put it out a few times, once a cold beer. Moved the table last year and the tile pieces fell thru to the floor. Luck the egg did not fall thru, it was getting close. Guess it was time to do some repairs. so today I did.

The top of the table looking down:

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The table beneath the egg:

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As long as I was in the repair mode I removed the fire ring in 4 pieces and did a JB Weld job.

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Pieces:

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JB'ed Finish:

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While at this project removed the 10 year old charred gasket and replaced the bottom, thanks RRP. Left the top with out a gasket.
Placed the diamond metal plates that I have had there for 3-4 years over the hole and the rest of the bottom shelf, added a 16 inch square garden paver and then 3 BGE feet.

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Should be good to go for several more cooks. Hope this helps someone who, like me, has been sitting on the fence about doing some fire prevention repair.
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  • Little StevenLittle Steven Posts: 28,817
    Richard,

    As you know, that scares the living sh!t out of me.

    Steve

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • Richard FlRichard Fl Posts: 8,217
    I hear you baby, hope others listen also. See you next month??
  • 2Fategghead2Fategghead Posts: 9,623
    Great post Richard. ;)
  • Rusty RoosterRusty Rooster Posts: 1,239
    Glad to see you getting it fixed. I remember seeing the charred places on the top but did not realize how serious the floor situation was.
  • Little StevenLittle Steven Posts: 28,817
    Not looking like it my friend. Maybe November

    Steve

    Steve 

    Caledon, ON

     

  • Clay QClay Q Posts: 4,435
    I guess the concrete paver is the way to go. Lookin at your photo's you had a close call.
  • RRPRRP Posts: 21,577
    Richard - thanks for yet another testimonial for us believers in BOTH the feet AND a thick stone. I wonder if you might gain one more merit point toward BGE immortality if you re-posted this on the Table forum for newbies to read!
    L, M, S, Mini
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
    Re- gasketing AMERICA one yard at a time!
  • ShedFarmShedFarm Posts: 499
    You were SO LUCKY to have caught it when you did.

    It just reinforces my decision to use both a paver and feet when building the tables for my small and mini eggs.

    Thank you for the photo testimonial.
    BJ (Powhatan, VA)
  • elzbthelzbth Posts: 2,075
    Wow. I had a similar experience with my table. The dealer delivered the egg and set it up. I didn't know any better, but realized quickly that the table was smoking. Called the dealer - got absolutely zero response. They finally agreed to give me the feet and sent someone out to help me get the egg under them. My first lesson in service (not) from the dealer. :angry:
  • FlaPoolmanFlaPoolman Posts: 11,672
    Dang it Richard, you saw my table a few years back so you know better than to let it go like that.

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    call me tomorrow I have some stuff for you.
  • RRPRRP Posts: 21,577
    and while the newbies are looking at it you might want to throw in this pix of why to bother with that screen-door thingee when retro fitting an older egg!
    IMG_2059.jpg
    L, M, S, Mini
    Ron
    Dunlap, IL
    Re- gasketing AMERICA one yard at a time!
  • HossHoss Posts: 14,600
    Another GOOD reason to have a WEBER(which is NEVER lit) sittin in my $1000 dollar table.Nest and Handler is THE ONLY WAY TO GO! ;) Anything else is ......personal preferance.BE CAREFUL!Dammit Richard ,you could have ruined a 'Loney chub doin that! B)
  • Richard FlRichard Fl Posts: 8,217
    I could have ruined the LONEY Castle!
  • BeliBeli Posts: 10,751
    Glad you did it Richard, one shouldn't worry about any other fire but the one inside the egg when cooking ;)
  • 2Fategghead2Fategghead Posts: 9,623
    Ha!

    You need a Loney round table!

    Imagin that. ;)
  • definsdefins Posts: 1
    My egg has caught on fire twice. Had to put it out with hose before it burnt down the house.  I smoke a lot of pork. After time the build up inside the egg catches fire. The last time I looked at it and said , "I really need to scrape that off."  OOPs.  Keep an eye on the fat buildup if you smoke alot.
  • KiterToddKiterTodd Posts: 2,033
    defins said:
    My egg has caught on fire twice. Had to put it out with hose before it burnt down the house.  I smoke a lot of pork. After time the build up inside the egg catches fire. The last time I looked at it and said , "I really need to scrape that off."  OOPs.  Keep an eye on the fat buildup if you smoke alot.
    Will a clean burn on occasion take care of this?


    Yes, I know this is an old post (defins reply is recent) but this is an important enough topic that it's good to keep newbies like myself aware of the risks!
    LBGE/Maryland
  • jmcnutt5jmcnutt5 Posts: 86
    I once had dreams of having a nice table or out door kitchen with my egg...until I started seeing pics and hearing stories about peoples' tables catching fire.  I know there is a correct way to build one (stone PLUS an air-gap) but you better be sure you do it right and check it every so often.  I have seen pictures of outside kitchens with eggs completely enclosed by cabinets and while those may work just fine, I just cringe at that thought.  That is a lot of heat to dissapate in an enclosed environment with the only opening around the cutout hole of the egg.
  • yzziyzzi Posts: 1,793
    That's why I ditched the table and went back to the nest.
    Dunedin, FL
  • MickeyMickey Posts: 18,611
    Is your girlfriend out of town. You sure have a lot of time on your hands :)>-
    Salado TX Egg Family: 2 Large and a very well used Mini, added a Mini Max (I'm good for now). 

  • ZmokinZmokin Posts: 1,937
    Another reason I like my metal table, it's fireproof.
    Large BGE in a Sole' Gourmet Table
    Using the Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter,
     and a BBQ Guru temp controller.

    Medium BGE in custom modified off-road nest.
    Black Cast Iron grill, Plate Setter, and a Party-Q temp controller.

    Location: somewhere West of the Mason-Dixon Line
  • BotchBotch Posts: 5,862
    edited August 2014
    ...the table caught fire at the gasket level a few times. Actually used a glass of water to put it out a few times, once a cold beer. 
     

    :-O  That's it.  Ban him!!!   :-t
     
     

    :P
     
    Gotta admit, once I had the first fire, I'd change everything; not worth continuing in that mode.  
    _____________________________________________
     
    Live fast, die young, and leave a well-marbled corpse.  
     
    Ogden, Utard.  
  • KennyLeeKennyLee Posts: 747
    Floor tile is not made and will not withstand the heat and will conduct the heat plus eventually crack.  Pavers, the 2" thick variety with or without feet or the table nest is the way to go. 

    LBGE

    Cedar table w/granite top

    Ceramic Grillworks two-tier swing rack

    Perpetual cooler of ice-cold beer

  • KiterToddKiterTodd Posts: 2,033
    Has anyone heard of a fire in a closed up egg, in a nest?  (that wasn't being pulledin a trailer down the interstate or anything like that)

    ...just trying to evaluate my risk just going to bed with the egg on the deck after cooking dinner.   I am guessing I'm okay.  Maybe if a big wind storm comes up I'd want to figure out a way to snuff it out better.  (light watering?)
    LBGE/Maryland
  • jtcBoyntonjtcBoynton Posts: 1,946
    It doesn't take much of an airflow to sustain my egg at low temperatures. It is possible for there to be enough air leaks to sustain a minimum fire even after closing up the egg.  Check to make sure the air intake cover is tight, the gasket is tight and the ceramic top forms a good seal. If you are concerned about the fire getting going again, it would be a good idea to have a remote thermometer with an alarm. Leave it on after your egg has cooled and set to warn you if it is heating up again.
    Southeast Florida - LBGE
    In cooking, often we implement steps for which we have no explanations other than ‘that’s what everybody else does’ or ‘that’s what I have been told.’  Dare to think for yourself.
     
  • blind99blind99 Posts: 3,990

    It's great to hear these safety issues.

    What other obscure - or common - safety issues should a new egger know about?

    My biggest fear is that a small child will try to hang on the handle and pull the egg over. I've got a large egg in the standard nest, sitting on my paver patio.  Should I get an egg handler and anchor that to the ground behind it to prevent tipping?  Anyone heard of a hot egg tipping over (other than trying to roll it around)?

    Chicago, IL - Large BGE - Weber Gasser - Weber Kettle
  • KiterToddKiterTodd Posts: 2,033
    blind99 said:
    My biggest fear is that a small child will try to hang on the handle and pull the egg over. I've got a large egg in the standard nest, sitting on my paver patio.  Should I get an egg handler and anchor that to the ground behind it to prevent tipping?  Anyone heard of a hot egg tipping over (other than trying to roll it around)?
    I'd think a small child could do pull-ups on the handle, but not tip it over.
    Maker sure the wheels are locked.
    LBGE/Maryland
  • HDmstngHDmstng Posts: 191
    What would be nice is an outdoor fire detection system.  Haven't found much yet, but the seem to go along the lines of thermal imaging cameras.  Those aren't going to be cheap, and there are some technical issues to work out as well such as false alarms while using the Egg.
  • CanuggheadCanugghead Posts: 6,083
    defins said:
    My egg has caught on fire twice. Had to put it out with hose before it burnt down the house.  I smoke a lot of pork. After time the build up inside the egg catches fire. The last time I looked at it and said , "I really need to scrape that off."  OOPs.  Keep an eye on the fat buildup if you smoke alot.
    May be I'm reading too much into this but folks, perhaps this case has nothing to do with wood table or deck? The fire started INSIDE the egg due to fat buildup!

    @defins, just wondering, do you use a drip pan to catch the fat? if not, did you actually have a thick layer of fat in the egg bottom?
    canuckland
  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 22,305
    KiterTodd said:
    Has anyone heard of a fire in a closed up egg, in a nest?  (that wasn't being pulledin a trailer down the interstate or anything like that)

    ...just trying to evaluate my risk just going to bed with the egg on the deck after cooking dinner.   I am guessing I'm okay.  Maybe if a big wind storm comes up I'd want to figure out a way to snuff it out better.  (light watering?)
    my egg burnt almost thru 2 inch thick boards before i found it balancing there in the morning about to tip over, fortunately i had a metal bucket underneath that caught the hot embers before hitting the deck. no big cooks on the deck anymore for me. all my eggs are off the deck except for the mini for short cooks
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